Skip to Content.
Sympa Menu

permaculture - Re: [permaculture] hydraulic rams

permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org

Subject: permaculture

List archive

Chronological Thread  
  • From: "Finca Mamaita" <info@fincamamaita.com>
  • To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] hydraulic rams
  • Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:00:55 +0100

Hi,
I am interested in finding a way of moving irrigation water from a channel that adjoins our farm to a holding tank from which i intend to drip and sprinkle irrigate (the tank will enable me to remove silt and add manure teas). It is difficult for me to site the tank below the level of the channel (and benefit from gravity/syphon). I am thinking that a ram pump may do the job but am not sure if I have enough flow - it is constant (from April - October) but quite gentle.
Has anyone experience and/or knowledge?
Thanks
Dominic in southern Spain.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Dennig" <edennig@pacbell.net>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] greywater or graywater


Here's a link to a useful .pdf file on mound systems (my local
Environmental Planning office refers to them as "Wisconsin Mound Systems"
because they were developed there.) They are no longer approved here
because there are apparently better and less costly alternatives. I didn't
explore the alternatives.

At 06:39 AM 12/8/2005, you wrote:
Walt Dennig wrote:
There are also near-surface and surface systems for leach
fields http://www.infiltratorsystems.com/ . There is a mound system that
a friend of mine had approved in the coastal mountains of California.

Hi again....

The mound system septic way of dealing with effluent is replacing the
common septic tank and seep field systems up here. The cost, on average
is between $8000-$11,000.(up here anyway) This cost is prohibitive to so
many folks...that they tend to continue using septic fields that (in some
cases) are literally dumping raw sewage into the lakes. These old systems
are "grandfathered" and unless their neighbor reports the failing
system...they continue to dump....

With so much new building and development up here..."up", as in mound
system, is the only way to go with treatment systems....(so stated by my
DNR friend).

I have a composting toilet in my store...a SunMar..(we love it)..it was
approved by my county zoning folks and blessed with a "privy permit". I
was the first business in the county to have one approved...I did all the
research and had to make a presentation to the DNR and county zoning board
to get the thing approved...that's when I met all my "contacts". It was a
very hard sell....anything "new" is. I can hear the eyes rolling out
there...but this area is prolly 10 years behind all of you.

Having that privy approved was the only way I could open my
business...since the building doesn't have water of septic and the cost of
adding those items (if even physically possible) would have added $40,000
to my opening costs...which at the time were a little over $10,000. I use
the composting toilet as an education tool. I've even invited people to
come and witness the emptying of the final composting tray. They are
always amazed at the wonderful compost that is the by product of our potty.

I appreciate all the good links and info. Maybe all you guys and gals out
there should start targeting State and Fed Natural Resources conferences
with your programs. It's seems to me, that no one is approaching these
folks in my area...I'm just one person..and am running the risk of
"bothering them" to the point where they won't talk to me anymore. They
believe themselves on the "bleeding edge" of environmental issues...and
become indignant with my suggestions...(after all...they have the
recourses of U of WI at Madison and Stevens Point)...but...one NR person I
used the word "permaculture" with...hadn't ever heard of
it....yikes...love and peace...lynnann
_______________________________________________
permaculture mailing list
permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture


_______________________________________________
permaculture mailing list
permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture





Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.

Top of Page