permaculture

["Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>]

Martin Naylor wrote:

> one way to get the planet together would be to get all the groups who know what'-s going on and select a group to form a super group, 
> with money suplied from the original groups like green peace wilderness permaculture the lists goes on till about 90% of the people 
> on the planet are represented, with a group who has a lot of money to act with wisdom, this idea was originaly in grist

True pyramid power; a "good" pyramid scheme to save the Earth and its 
peoples. Of course, it would be decentralized but networked with
approved decision-making algorythms at the data storage/processing level
(remember Mother in Alien, for sci-fi fans?).
Who would form the baseline group, i.e. the base of the pyramid, the men 
and women in the street? Where would they come from and how would they 
be pursuaded to participate and how would they be connected to the 
communications/data/decision-making network?
> souscayrous <souscayrous@tiscali.fr> wrote:
> Hello everyone, why is this hand hidden? There is nothing hidden about the
> fertility of earth except the human practices that reduce fertility; it is
> only when we regard the infertile world we have made that we begin to
> question whether the earth can provide. The earth can support not only the
> current human population but current non-human life too, providing we allow
> it to provide.
>
> We might also wonder at the use of the term 'surplus', to whom is this
> 'surplus' surplus? It has been written that even the loss of a single straw
> can allow an agriculture to go awry.
>
> We have created myriad worlds with which to disguise earth; God, gods,
> money, science, Progress, metaphysics, even words. We are permaculturalists
> or respond to Permaculture because we recognise the problems that we have
> created, what we have still to realise is that no new knowledge or no new
> 'hidden hand' is going to save the earth for us. What are we going to learn
> from new moon shots? What are we going to learn from bioengineering? A few
> of us might very well learn to extend our lives beyond 100 years (while the
> average age of mortality continues to fall), but what is it exactly we need
> this extended life for?
>
> We are the species that invented knowing and our knowledge allows us to
> believe the universe is centred upon us. But there have been ages without
> humanity and there will be ages again without us, how then will our vaunted
> knowledge look?
>
> Jamie
> Souscayrous

Hello Jamie, after a long while. You write so well.

Cheers,

LL