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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@gilanet.com>
  • To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] self-sufficiency
  • Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:46:05 -0600


Most likely your extraction economy is actually extracting wealth from
Thunder Bay, with outside companies there that are not recirculating profits
within the community. They get the green light by making jobs, but they run
out. So, like many other places they aren't prepared for the decline.
Community self sufficiency involves a learning curve, so it's not quick and
easy when an extraction economy fails as it must. But lots more goods and
services could be provided by local business, creating jobs and self
employment for many others. The basic needs of food, shelter, transportation,
and social contact can offer opportunities for more local entrepreneurship.
Local builders can learn to use more local materials and adapt. Locals can
learn more service trades without going somewhere else to do it. Growing more
food locally and learning to work with basic foodstuffs is needed everywhere.
Reliable auto mechanics are always in demand, as are the more reliable
second-hand vechicles of all kinds. I'd say it's up to the locals' own ideas
and initiative, not up to a "designer" at all.

paul, webmaster@fedworkerscomp.net

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On 10/20/2004 at 12:47 AM Jocelyn Paquette & Bob Ewing wrote:

>so we move out of the cities into the rural area and then what happens
>to the rural areas would they not surpass their carrying capacity? Here
>in Thunder Bay the population is declining, one reason is that as a
>natural resource extraction economy we are running out of things to chop
>down or dig up. this is an ideal opportunity for designers to show what
>can be done.
>
>Bob Ewing
>
>
>Tradingpost wrote:
>
>>One way out of that dilemma would be to go where it's cheaper to live and
>make your own work. There are ways, because other people are doing it.
>People in rural areas needs goods and services just like city folk. AND if
>they can get them locally, they're usually happy to give their business to
>other locals. Permaculture can help with that. I lived in rural North TX
>for 50 years. I won't go back.
>>
>>paul@largocreekfarms.com
>>http://medicinehill.net
>>
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>>On 10/19/2004 at 8:55 PM Deborah wrote:
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