permaculture

[Rick Valley <bamboogrove@cmug.com>]

> I don't have specifics for "all-purpose" PC documents.  However, for
> everything about building with bamboo, try contacting Oscar Hidalgo Lopez at
> Universidad Nacional de Colombia.   His
> former student, bamboo architect Simon Velez, ought to be findable too.
They are both hombres muy simpaticos, but bamboo construction details are
one small part of the elephant.

> There are definitely some people who have taught/designed/worked in Mexico
I am on track for getting back in contact with Alejandra Caballero and her
brother Jose who are both excellent Pc'er

 a teacher/designer
> named Skye somewhere in Mexico who was on this list long ago.
Ex-Crystal Waters Skye is a Brasilero by marriage last he popped in here,
eh?
> I have seen copies of Introduction to Permaculture in Spanish - don't know a
> sure source, though.
I DONT like the translation. I've got it, don't use it much.

One little piece I do use is a Spanish translation of a French book covering
a German technique (hugelkultur)
"Tu Huerto Biologico", por Vincent Gerbe, printed in Barcelona.

The fragmented nature of publishing in Spanish is part of the problem- so
many countries, and the markets have been so isolated. This has roots in the
Spanish colonial system. And the language differences between countries!
Ayyyy! My (Mexican) Spanish teacher pulled a short piece on organic
gardening off the net from Chile, and had no idea what 3 or 4 key words
meant, nor were they in my Spanish-English pocket dictionary. This is
understandable when you consider that it can be difficult to translate
between 'Strine and 'Merkin English, and there's only 200 years of
separation there; 4-500 years separate the strains of Spanish.

I figure we in the US need to become fully bi-lingual, since we have more
Spanish speakers than Spain, as well as the world's 2nd largest
Spanish-speaking urban population (LA, after Mexico DF)
Claro, it'll be some sort of "Spanglish" that'll result, but the process has
been long underway, as in "cowboy" English, where the buckeroos can vamoose.
In my "industry" (horticulture) workshops and classes in Oregon are commonly
offered in Spanish now.

-Rick