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  • From: Selwyn Polit <selwyn@austintx.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Re: [RE: [permaculture] Money from Gates]]
  • Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:53:21 -0500

Hi Nguyen,
Thanks for keeping us on track. I don't think anyone is trying to undermine the seriousness of the situation, just having a little fun.

One of the projects that we are considering here in Austin is to get the "playbook" into an electronic form and perhaps make it available on the web. The "playbook" is the manual that the Earthaven permaculture teachers give to students who take their courses. It is a wealth of knowledge but it needs more organizing and indexing and the cross referencing capabilities of the web would make it even more useful. I think at one time it was based on Bill Mollison's materials for the 72 certification class.

Ideally we would also like a nice Permaculture community center in Austin where we could have a CSA, community gardens, teaching and camping spaces, test farms etc... Aah, I can always dream.

Selwyn


Response to Graham:
The issue started out with better feeding the world's hungry. Can we hope to teach people in third world countries to successfully grow enough wholesome food to feed themselves and their neighbors in adverse geological environments (deserts..) without harming the earth? If the ans. is yes, then there's a case for grants writing. These jokes about pocketing money for vacations undermine the seriousness of the situation.

Greg: Are you the guy that lives in Gilbert, AZ, whose lovely frontyard I saw?

From: Stephanie Gerson <sgerson@stanfordalumni.org>
Reply-To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Re: [RE: [permaculture] Money from Gates]]
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:54:48 -0700

definitely pondered the same issues regarding somewhat 'dirty' money...

but gotta say, i somewhat agree with selwyn

if they have the money, and it *is* going to be spent, why not spend it
on something worthwhile?

xoxoxoxo
*s

ps and of course you are all invited to the philliphines with the pocket
change

Selwyn Polit <selwyn@austintx.com> wrote:

Hi Graham,
I don't know.... seems like it would go towards caring for earth and
people
and as long as you get a little extra to share, I think it is a
marvellous
idea.

Selwyn


>So how permacultural (ie, Earthright, sustainable) is it to ask for or
>expect money from the likes of gates, Shell, McDonalds, the Lottery,
etc,
>anyway?
>
>ducking and covering, Graham
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mIEKAL aND" <dtv@mwt.net>
>To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [RE: [permaculture] Money from Gates]
>
>
> > hopefully Stephanie your thinking about asking for funding for the
> > permaculture database project... that would be a perfect thing for
Mr
> > Gates to help fund. ask for a couple million, it pocket change to
him.
> >
> > mIEKAL
> >
> >
> > On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 12:43 PM, Stephanie Gerson wrote:
> >
> > > I actually *do* have a Permaculture project that I was planning on
> > > soliciting
> > > money for.
> > >
> > > anyone interested in being squeaky wheels, please write back to me
> > > (instead of
> > > the entire list) at sgerson@stanfordalumni.org.
> > >
> > > wonderful.
> > >
> > > peace
> > > *stephanie
> > >
> > > "Michele May" <mmay.lmft@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well if anyone wants to do this, I love grant writing and would
love to
> > > help
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of nguyen
> > > trung
> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:17 PM
> > > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: [permaculture] Money from Gates
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > "Squeaky wheels get the oil": Have any permaculture or organic
> > > farming
> > > organizations written grant proposals to the Gates Foundation for
> > > research
> > > and education money?
> > >
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