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[elijahs@earthlink.net]

Hmmm...  while generalizations like this make me unhappy too, it's because 
I've seen it often to be true.  Not all, to be sure, but it is h-a-r-d to get 
by here "outside the money system" - even in Hawaii, where food drops off the 
trees, people are getting food stamps and growing w**d as a cash crop. 

So, mIEKAL, how did you and yours get by in our money-fetishistic society?

-------Original Message-------
From: miekal and <dtv@mwt.net>
Sent: 07/02/03 11:48 AM
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Walled Communities

> 
> Generalizations like this frighten me.  Here at Dreamtime Ive seen an 
endless stream of nomadic anarchist types who live outside the money 
system & it is precisely because they do have skills that they are able 
to live successfully outside of the system.  They don't have a lot of 
capital because they make a decision to not work for the man, pay 
taxes, resist hierarchical structures, etc....   & I remember a few 
years ago before I got my first real "job" (at the ripe age of 42), I 
was making more money than anyone else living here & I was making maybe 
$4K.    mIEKAL

On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 10:00 AM, Toby Hemenway wrote:

>  It's a sad fact that often (with notable exceptions) people without 
> cash also don't have skills, experience, or sometimes the will to 
> persevere, which are all useful to a community.

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