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[permaculture] ground source heat ; was Permaculture Apartment
- From: "Kelly Finigan" <kfinigan@spots.ca>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: [permaculture] ground source heat ; was Permaculture Apartment
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:30:28 -0700
Hi:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:53:41 EDT, Marimike6 wrote
> Hi again--
>
> Plans for a permaculture apartment can run the gamut from a bean
> sprouter placed in your sunny-side window to a radical new design
> for living. One such is an ingenious adaptation of geothermal energy
> based on the fact that ten feet below your floorboards, the ground
> temperature is the average of your area's summer and winter
> temperatures. That's why when they homesteaded the American Midwest,
> the old sodbusters used to dig out their homes and put a roof over
> the pit. It was just warmer in winter, cooler in summer down there
> (not to mention being a handy retreat from tornados).
For earth sheltered housing with efficient design and passive solar gain
this may be ok, but when (realtively) lots of heat is taken out every
heating season, the overall ground temperature (the heat store in this case)
becomes depleted.
Around here, this technology (ground source heat pump) has started not
performing well after as little as two heating seasons. Seems like asystem
that could become useless (or at least of less use) long before the building
is intended to be.
Maybe this is just occurring in climates like mine - high heating
requirement (for "conventional" houses anyway!) and little summer cooling
required (i.e. no need/opportunity to "fill" the earth-coolth battery
[soil]). Maybe it works better in more temperate areas?
I expect the situation gets rapidly worse if large buildings / subdivisions
adopt this method. Possible ways to lessen the impact - efficient (less heat
demand) design, passive solar gain (recharge the battery)?
just my observation...
Kelly
--
Kelly Finigan, M.Sc. P.Eng. Permaculture Designer
Essential Elements Inc.
~ Sustainability services, Permaculture landscapes & buildings -
workshops, designs & consulting ~
744 - 4 Street NW
Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1P2
phone 403-283-7270
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[permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
Katherine Steele, 06/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
John Schinnerer, 06/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
Vint Lawrence, 06/08/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
ERDA Institute, 06/09/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
John Schinnerer, 06/09/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment, ERDA Institute, 06/09/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment, Russ Grayson, 06/11/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
John Schinnerer, 06/09/2003
- Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment, Keith Johnson, 06/13/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
ERDA Institute, 06/09/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
Vint Lawrence, 06/08/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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[permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
Marimike6, 06/12/2003
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[permaculture] ground source heat ; was Permaculture Apartment,
Kelly Finigan, 06/12/2003
- Re: [permaculture] ground source heat, John Schinnerer, 06/12/2003
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[permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Rick Valley, 06/12/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Claude Genest, 06/13/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Rick Valley, 06/13/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Claude Genest, 06/13/2003
- Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out, Rick Valley, 06/13/2003
- Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out, Bob Howard, 06/15/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Claude Genest, 06/13/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Rick Valley, 06/13/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
ERDA Institute, 06/13/2003
- Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out, Rick Valley, 06/14/2003
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Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out,
Claude Genest, 06/13/2003
- Re: [permaculture] gettin' the lead out, John Irwin, 06/13/2003
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[permaculture] ground source heat ; was Permaculture Apartment,
Kelly Finigan, 06/12/2003
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Re: [permaculture] Re: Permaculture Apartment,
John Schinnerer, 06/08/2003
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