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- From: Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette <sixdegrees@baynet.net>
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?
- Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:59:08 -0500
greetings, one reason that i believe that the source of the funds makes a
difference is: In exchange for a few dollars we allow an environmental
despoiler to claim that they care about the Earth
because they paid for some repair work. This enables them to go on making a
"mess" as long as they clean it up, in other words, they can make a claim
that they are green, and therefore a good corporate
citizen, because they clean, or pay someone to clean, up after themselves.
This means they can avoid redesigning their operation so that they don't make
a mess in the first place, which is the work that needs to be done.
Also we do not actually know what harm that the "mess" that they created has
done, how far has the damage gone, and will the repair work be able to fix
it. I believe that the repair work is essential
but it is only a part of what needs to be done. We must design work and
production so that waste is not created,, so there is no need to dump it and
that the land, air and water are not harmed by our
actions. We cannot simply accept money for repair work in lieu of doing it
right in the first place.
Now perhaps, if the polluter was willing to pay for repair work and for a
complete overhaul of the operation so that it no longer harms the ecosystem
it is part of, then the money would be acceptable.
Bob Ewing
http://www.urbanpermaculture.net
Claude Genest wrote:
> - does it matter who pays for it and
> why? Yes, of course...
>
> I'd like to hear more on this train of thought... to play a little devil's
> advocate : .If we get money to green up the earth in exchange for "them"
> getting a little greenwashing, is that so wrong ?
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[permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/02/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Mark, 12/03/2002
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[permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction,
Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/05/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction,
georg parlow, 12/06/2002
- RE: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction, jamie, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction,
georg parlow, 12/06/2002
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[permaculture] Fossil fuel addiction,
Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/05/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Kirby Fry, 12/03/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society, Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 12/03/2002
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[permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
Claude Genest, 12/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 12/03/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?, Mark, 12/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth ..Who pays?,
Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 12/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Mark, 12/03/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
John Schinnerer, 12/04/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society, Claude Genest, 12/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
John Schinnerer, 12/04/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/05/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Kirby Fry, 12/06/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society, Misha Gale-Sinex, 12/10/2002
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[permaculture] Taking $ from evil doers, fossil fuel,
Mark, 12/06/2002
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[permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Bob Howard, 12/06/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Re:The American view of the world, Mark Ludwig, 12/07/2002
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[permaculture] Re:The American view of the world,
Bob Howard, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Kirby Fry, 12/06/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society,
Mark, 12/03/2002
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