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  • From: "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net>
  • To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Greening Earth Society
  • Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 23:58:53 -0800 (PST)

Aloha,

Good question, Claude.

I observe that 'how we do what we do is who we are becoming' (paraphrasing
Humberto Maturana, a systems thinker's systems thinker...)

In the case of this organization, the 'how they do what they do' is to
deceive or attempt to deceive others, in a variety of ways, to protect
their own interests against what I for one consider the best interests of
our species as well as a whole lotta others.

They do this by selective presentation of certain information, by
omission, by simplification of complex problems, by invocation of
'authorities' in specialized areas, by choice of name, etc. - common and
probably ageless forms of what we 'modern' folk call propaganda.

So it would be hypocritical of me to support how they do what they do.

I don't object to practical on-the-ground holistic regeneration that may
get done with their money (though most of their proposals don't sound at
all holistic and some sound downright dangerous) - and I will happily
thank them for that while continuing to express why I disagree with both
how they frame the issues they claim to address and how they attempt to
address them.

As Bateson said, the key is to hold both, together and separately, at the
same time.


John Schinnerer, MA
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- Eco-Living -
Cultural & Ecological Designing
People - Place - Learning - Integration
john@eco-living.net
http://eco-living.net






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