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- From: Rick Valley <bamboogrove@cmug.com>
- To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed
- Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:54:36 -0700
Simon sez:
> We're not covering the walls as we build them and they shed rain very
> effectively - they are dry within minutes of a downpour ending, but I don't
> know if they would do this with continued contact with wet soil.
From my recent experience, cob debris makes a decent garden soil. It will
assume the moisture content of the adjoining soil, and become one with it.
Garden walls, with a roof, can be made with cob or rammed earth or adobes,
as you can see all around the world.
From my long-ago teacher Peter Chan, the important thing is not raising the
bed, but not walking on it. From a long discussion with Emilia Hazelip, the
best reason I can see for raising your beds is to keep clueless homonids
from walking on them. How many visitors have I had that assume that mulch is
to walk on!!!
Terrace walls, on the other hand, are crucial if you're on slope. I like
stone, and often use urbanite as the most readily available, despite
warnings of ash from industrial processes used in the manufacture of cement.
I think the coolest thing to do with a stone wall is a trick I learned from
folks in the rock garden society. Weeds in stone walls are a real pain in
the glutes. So make a "mortar of 1/3 compost 1/3 peat (or coco fiber or ?)
and 1/3 3/4 minus crushed rock, and slap this between your stones as you
build and put in (pelletized?) seeds of appropriate species as well as
transplanting 1 inch plugs of other appropriate types. Of course, you'll
want to select your wall polyculture (singing pollywallyculture all the
day?) carefully for traits such as supressing grasses allelopathologically &
etc. You'll end up with garden in your retaining walls instead of weeds to
continually infest your beds.
I do often use raised beds- but they'll be of a hugelkultur sort, literally
building on top of the grade. Here, I start with alder logs as a foundation.
-Rick
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Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed
, (continued)
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, Allan Balliett, 07/25/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, Jerome Osentowski, 07/26/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, Scott Pittman, 07/26/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, len organicpc, 07/26/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed,
Robert Waldrop, 07/29/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, John Irwin, 07/30/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed,
Santoyo & Associates, 07/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, Mark, 07/30/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed,
Simon Kartar, 07/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, georg jo su parlow, 07/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, Rick Valley, 07/31/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed,
Rick Valley, 07/31/2002
- [permaculture] Thatch, Mark, 07/31/2002
- RE: [permaculture] Material for raised bed, Michael Murphy, 07/30/2002
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Re: [permaculture] Material for raised bed,
Robert Waldrop, 07/30/2002
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[permaculture] gabions,
Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 07/30/2002
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Re: [permaculture] gabions,
Mark, 07/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] gabions, Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 07/30/2002
- RE: [permaculture] gabions, Kevin email, 07/31/2002
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Re: [permaculture] gabions,
Mark, 07/30/2002
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[permaculture] gabions,
Bob Ewing & Jocelyn Paquette, 07/30/2002
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