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- From: "keller" <ak.and.ak@on-line.de>
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review
- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:08:24 +0100
Title: Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review
Thanky you, Russ!
that is exactly the problem I am
facing.
I am convinced that pc has something to offer, but
if I want to approach a donor to give me money for a development project, they
want evidence that the money spent will have a positive effect and that the
approach I am suggesting is better than the approaches of other people who have
also applied for money with them.
I want to convince some donors that it is a good
idea to finance a permaculture design course in Cameroon. What can I tell them
to support the idea? I need very good arguments. I need projects in other parts
of the world where pc has made a difference (a measurable difference, not
necessarily "yields", but something that can be established
objectively).
Then they will want to see evidence of success. I
would have to write reports about the reports. If nothing came out, I will not
get money again, and that agency will not support any pc project in the future.
They want verification. I must be successfull, and I must be able to prove
somehow the success.
If pc develops a reputation among donor agencies of
unverified claims, should I better ommit the lable
of permaculture and try to sell agroforestry and aquaculture instead to them and
better not mention that I am sympathizing with pc (even if I use some methods
borrowed from pc?). In the end it is the content that counts for me, not the
label.
Question 1: does pc actually work.
Question 2: if the answere is yes, where is the evidence?
Question 3: does a permaculture design course enable people to do work that
makes a difference? (I don't expect a 72 hour course to teach everything, it is
enough if it can provide a basis from which these people start working
_successfully_).
Question 4: What is the added value pc has to offer compared with other
approaches. What makes it better?
Andreas
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Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review
, (continued)
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Claude Genest, 01/06/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Claude Genest, 01/06/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Allan Balliett, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, georg parlow, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, georg parlow, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Allan Balliett, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Claude Genest, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, georg parlow, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, MABOYD5, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, keller, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, keller, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Toby Hemenway, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, keller, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Toby Hemenway, 01/07/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Toby Hemenway, 01/08/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, keller, 01/08/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 01/09/2002
- Re: Pc slammed in Whole Earth Review, Pacific Edge Permaculture + Media, 01/09/2002
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