permaculture

[blissv@nmhu.campus.mci.net]

" But there are some general principles that govern
>all life, and all living systems that we can observe. "

When you reduce this observation to it's most fundamental, you will see
order in the chaos, a greater harmony and pattern that consists of and
creates all of it. Consider fractals, consider fibonacci patterning
throughout nature.There is an innate, intelligent pattern which nature
follows. This same pattern governs us (as a part of nature) and as we peel
away what 'society' has imposed, false constructs of a paradigm we have, by
default, agreed with, we find a very different lifeform possible and one, I
propose, that lives from harmony that precludes "everybody *struggling* to
find their place."

V


At 04:49 PM 11/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Christopher wrote:
>
>>We can use examples from "ecosystems" to justify any human cultural opinion
>>that we can come up with. Ants keep slaves, should we?
>
>I'm not talking about "examples", I'm talking about general principles.
>You're right that we shouldn't just go copy the arcane habits of some
>particular species. :-)  Not many, but a few
>- the law of diversity, and the law of limited competition being two chief
>among them - both of which help keep the Law of Return going.
>
>>Let's let permaculture be an evoving, heuristic, fun way of saving the
>planet,
>>not just a refuge for a few crusty, survivalist curmudgeons. 
>
>Heheh... it IS fun!  In fact, I think Permaculture will succeed simply by
>showing people that we're having a better time than they are!  And I'm
>about the farthest thing from a crusty survivalist.  In fact, I think
>that's my whole point in getting into this discussion - I think it's
>strange that any display of argumentativeness causes that person to be
>judged as crusty or potentially dangerous.  I just think it's silly, and
>not worth the energy to blast somebody for that, especially if they have
>good ideas and obviously care about the earth and are being attentive to
>the discussion.  ESPECIALLY on the Internet, where we don't know the people
>involved and have no idea in many cases how they really meant something,
>whether they might have a problem communicating on this medium, or really
>much about them at all.
>
>Hey, people have all different ways of expressing things and it'd be nice
>if we could just discuss what they are saying not how they're saying it.
>If we ever expect to get along with people of other cultures (just for
>example), it would behoove us not to react immediately to what WE perceive
>as bad communication.
>
>= Lee =
>
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