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On Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:43 AM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
 


Hi Devin,

I'm in Massachusetts and would be very interested in some rhizomes or
seeds. I just bought a place last month and am planning my edible forest.

Let me know the how, cost, etc., - thanks!

Lori


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Devin Smith via nafex <
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> Glad to see there is some interest around tasty perennial groundcherries,
> For all of those who inquired, I'm in southern VT USDA zone 5b. I believe
> the lack of available perennial Physalis species in pretty indicative of
> the degree of neglect around these fruits. From what I have been able to
> surmise, there are several "species" of hardy perennial ground cherries.
> These are mostly considered problematic weeds, rather than useful cropping
> plants, though clearly a select few are as good as the best "cultivated"
> form. I've come across several different distinct types in my travels, none
> of which I am wholly convinced constitutes a "species" as such. It seems
> that the "annual" types, like Aunt Molly's or Pineapple, may in fact be
> perennial in the right climate (a warm one). As such, I tend to think of
> them as perennials grown as annuals, not unlike potatoes. Ripening times
> for these "annual" types tend toward the fall, suggesting that they come
> from a place
>  with a relatively long season. The variety I found growing along the
> stone foundation is truly hardy in this climate, and can be clonally
> propagated  by its rhizomes. It is beginning to ripen its fruit now, a full
> month or more before most annual types. I am particularly enamored of this
> selection because of its highly prostrate form-- only 4" tall, as well as
> its good flavor and early ripening. It seems to be a pretty unusual find. I
> wondered if any of you had looked at your local perennial Physalis (they're
> probably more numerous that you ever thought) to see if there are ones
> worth growing.
>
>
> I could probably send some rhizomes, or perhaps seeds, to those who are
> interested.
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I'm getting a little lost in the discussion.  Are the named annual varieties 
better tasting and sweeter than the wild chinese lantern type?

~mIEKAL


On Aug 21, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Lori Rizzo wrote:

> Hi Devin,
> 
> I'm in Massachusetts and would be very interested in some rhizomes or
> seeds. I just bought a place last month and am planning my edible forest.
> 
> Let me know the how, cost, etc., - thanks!
> 
> Lori
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Devin Smith via nafex <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> 
>> Glad to see there is some interest around tasty perennial groundcherries,
>> For all of those who inquired, I'm in southern VT USDA zone 5b. I believe
>> the lack of available perennial Physalis species in pretty indicative of
>> the degree of neglect around these fruits. From what I have been able to
>> surmise, there are several "species" of hardy perennial ground cherries.
>> These are mostly considered problematic weeds, rather than useful cropping
>> plants, though clearly a select few are as good as the best "cultivated"
>> form. I've come across several different distinct types in my travels, none
>> of which I am wholly convinced constitutes a "species" as such. It seems
>> that the "annual" types, like Aunt Molly's or Pineapple, may in fact be
>> perennial in the right climate (a warm one). As such, I tend to think of
>> them as perennials grown as annuals, not unlike potatoes. Ripening times
>> for these "annual" types tend toward the fall, suggesting that they come
>> from a place
>> with a relatively long season. The variety I found growing along the
>> stone foundation is truly hardy in this climate, and can be clonally
>> propagated  by its rhizomes. It is beginning to ripen its fruit now, a full
>> month or more before most annual types. I am particularly enamored of this
>> selection because of its highly prostrate form-- only 4" tall, as well as
>> its good flavor and early ripening. It seems to be a pretty unusual find. I
>> wondered if any of you had looked at your local perennial Physalis (they're
>> probably more numerous that you ever thought) to see if there are ones
>> worth growing.
>> 
>> 
>> I could probably send some rhizomes, or perhaps seeds, to those who are
>> interested.
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> 
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> -- 
> Lori Rizzo, BSN MBA RN
> *Healthcare Quality & Performance Improvement*
> *Behavioral Dog Training & Counseling*
> *Heirloom & Unusual Vegetable Propagation*
> *Dedham, MA*
> *rizzolori1@gmail.com <rizzolori1@gmail.com>*
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