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[david liezen <chandos49@hotmail.com>]

Naomi,
Have you tried Footies soaked and dried in Surround/kaolin? 
I order mine from the Home Orchard Society in Portland, Oregon. You can find 
and order 'em on line. I just have to get them on the fruit at the same time 
they need to be thinned - those that need thinning - and get them off about 
two weeks before picking. They have cut my losses from codling worms to about 
10%. 

Granted, this requires some hours each May/June, but I need never spray. Glad 
for you squirrels are ignorant of your setting; may that remain so.

Dave Liezen


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> From: naomi@oznayim.us
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:39:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nafex] how to keep squirrels of trees
>
> I came along and put up a epicurean eatery. This drew the denizens of
> destruction to the area. A few might have been there before. They would
> have scrounged the meager pickings and moved on. Instead they are now
> swarming into my 3 star bistro of bounty and feasting freely on the fancy
> fare. The mangy mafia are less obliging than the human tithers who bore
> that name. These furry felons take all. My planning, investment and
> industry come to naught as all are despoiled by the rampaging rodents.
>
> My choices are 3..To continue to serve an increasing population of gobbling
> gangsters.....To uproot and annihilate my planting, dooming myself to the
> stale and limited varieties of the local produce purveyor, aka mega market
> chain of charmless chow.... to seek remedy by protecting what is mine by
> intent and effort. To reestablish my claim to the top of the food chain.
> This produce is MINE. Interlopers proceed at your peril. Or in the jargon
> of my locale SSS
>
> Actually for various reasons I do not have squirrels. But I do have
> coddling moths and around here they operate on a no share basis also. I
> learned the hard way that half measures would not work. I have just
> transferred my attitude, with some humor I hope, to the squirrel discussion.
> Naomi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of sherwin
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:10 PM
> To: nafex mailing list at ibiblio
> Subject: Re: [nafex] how to keep squirrels of trees
>
> On 12/2/2013 11:27 AM, Dr. Lucky Pittman wrote:
>> I've used the peanut butter/PoP bonbons on several occasions when
>> squirrels were digging up oak and pecan/hickory seedlings in my nursery
> area.
>> Depredation ceased immediately on all occasions.
>> I've never seen a dead squirrel from PB/PoP - and from my
>> medical/physiology background, I can't imagine how PoP would kill a
>> squirrel - but they have worked - at least in my perception.
>> However, I wouldn't count on them as a reliable deterrent against
>> squirrels ravaging fruit or nut crops.
>> Diligence in trapping/terminating or shooting the vermin is tantamount
>> to success.
>>
>> If you can't bear the thought of terminating the bushy-tailed tree
>> rats, so be it. Not everyone can do it.
>> Far too many folks are living in a warm-fuzzy Disneyfied world,
>> expecting sweetness and light and 'sharing the bounty' from their
>> wildlife 'friends'; but the critters don't understand that concept.
> Maybe, someone will decide to get rid of your 'poodle-rat'.
> Sticking a label on these animals does not diminish their worth.
>
> I'm not ready to share any of my fruit with any critter, but I try
> to understand we humans have invaded their turf, a two way
> street. I do my best to get rid of them without killing them.
> Some people kill squirrels for food, but that's another matter.
>
>
>>
>> Yes, wildlife biologists do, on occasion, 'relocate' members of extant
>> species in efforts to re-establish them in localities where they were
>> once present, but across-the-board, they condemn relocation of
>> nuisance members of non-threatened species, for a variety of reasons
>> which have previously been detailed in this thread.
>>
>> Lucky
>>
>>
> By the way, I have a couple of neighbors I would like to relocate, and they
> are certainly not a threatened species.
>
> Sherwin in Morton Grove
>
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