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["Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>]

Venus has the least muscat flavor of the three, NY Muscat has the most. 
 Jupiter and Venus are the most productive.  All three ripen 
approximately one to two weeks after Canadice.  Venus grows in cooler 
weather than the other two. It also has red or orange fall color.
You decide which works for you.
-Lon Rombough

Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at 
http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association 
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
Grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a short, 
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A video about The Grape Grower : 
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On Nov 27, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Ginda Fisher wrote:

How would you compare Venus to Jupiter to NY Muscat for flavor and
other eating characteristics?  And when do they ripen as compared to
Canadice?

I'm thinking of putting in either a Jupiter, a NY Muscat, or a Venus.
I know that I enjoyed NY Muscat warm off the vine, but noticed you
said that muscat types lose a lot of flavor shortly after picking.

I'm in zone 6, and have a Canadice that does well vegetatively, but
the flowers turn brown and shrivel most springs.  You suggested it
might be too much nitrogen, and I wonder if it's a lack of full sun.
But even if it flowered, Canadice ripens at a bad time for me, because
I'm often out-of-town that week.  I'd have more of a shot of
harvesting something that ripened about 2 weeks later.

Thanks,
Ginda

On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Lon J. Rombough wrote:

> Seedless Concord is a dud.  Weak, poor bearing vine.  Lots of much
> better seedless out there.   Try some of the  Arkansas selections such
> as Venus, Mars, Reliance or the new seedless muscat Jupiter. Not as
> crisp as the grocery store types, but lots more flavor.
> -Lon Rombough
> Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
> http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association
> "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
> Grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a short,
> low resolution clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M
> A video about The Grape Grower :
> http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Stephen Sadler wrote:
>
> The first release of each seedless grape variety in the stores this
> fall
> have included grapes that are scrumptious in their crispness and
> sweet/acid
> balance - but not a whole lot of fullness, depth; not much grape
> flavor.  Is
> there a good choice for a crisp, seedless grape that tastes like a
> grape?  I
> see a seedless "Eastern Concord" in a catalog here on my desk, but I
> don't
> know if it would fit the bill as an eating/dessert grape or as at
> least
> an
> easier-to-process Concord.
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions of something I might plant?
>
> ~ Stephen
> Central Valley, CA
> Zone 9, Mediterranean climate (Sunset 14)
>
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