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- From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
- To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Weather
- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:30:54 -0700
Early on in the last decade I was among the scientists who
thought that solar cycles should be closely examined for their role in so many
years of highest-recorded worldwide temperatures. I’ve kept up with
the research, and find 100% agreement among climatologists (I’m not one,
but feel trained and adept at understanding published studies) that this is a
carbon-based fuel use phenomenon, not a solar one. The arguments are more
than persuasive; they are neat, elegant, logical, clear, repeated, validated,
and scientifically irrefutable. Read them rather than taking my word for
that. One of the many explanations for the global climate change
phenomenon is that during the Cambrian period atmospheric carbon was much
higher. This led to very high global temperatures, incompatible with
human life. The plant species of the time evolved to use the high levels
of CO2, and that carbon was further utilized by the animals that ate those
plants. Carbon was drained from the atmosphere; perhaps by consumption
alone, or in tandem with other events. Those animals and plants died in a
rapid and massive extinction event (very likely caused by climate change).
Their carbon settled deep into the earth over time (which is why fossils are
dug up, not found on the surface), thus sequestering the carbon - making it
unavailable to the atmosphere. We call their remains and their carbon “crude
oil.” We are taking the carbon from that climatologically different –
and much hotter – time and burning it, placing the carbon back into the
atmosphere and recreating Cambrian levels. You simply can’t burn
the amount of carbon that we do at the pace that we do without creating global
climate change. There are many models of how this will manifest. Warming
may set off a chain of events that could lead to a rapid ice age, for
instance. Storms may be warm hurricanes or freezing superstorms. Weather
will certainly continue to be different than it has ever been in human
history. Species extinctions are at a rate comparable with other
mass extinction events; we are experiencing a mass extinction event right
now. The only question is which species will survive, and what we can do
to slow or reverse climate change. Many climate change naysayers site 2008s coolness relative to
the previous dozen years as evidence that climate change is not
occurring. 2008, though, was the ninth hottest year ever recorded; it just
seemed cool because of the string of previous years of record global high
temperatures. Back on topic – over the past decade I’ve been able
to grow zone 10 plants comfortably in my nominally zone 8 region. This is
not at all a reasonable sampling of others’ experience; but locally here
in California’s central valley my bananas and Kaffir lime are doing quite
well. Got too hot for my guava last summer, though. ~ Stephen From:
nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On
Behalf Of John Barbowski In the years gone by, temps
were cooler; in the years gone by, temps were warmer; In the years gone by,
temps were cooler; in the years gone by, temps were warmer; On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry guys, but you seem to be confused about what global
warming is and how it affects the weather. I blame the anti-global-warming
petroleum conspiracy for confusing so many people about what's really going on.
The truth is that virtually every reputable scientist on the planet has been in
agreement about global warming for more than a decade. |
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[NAFEX] Weather,
Ernest Plutko, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Steve, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Kevin Moore, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
John Barbowski, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Stephen Sadler, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Kevin Moore, 03/28/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] Weather, Betty Mayfield, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Kevin Moore, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Dr.O'Barr, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Mark Angermayer, 03/29/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] Weather, Kevin Moore, 03/29/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Mark Angermayer, 03/29/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] Weather, William C. Garthright, 03/29/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Stephen Sadler, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Steve, 03/29/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] Weather, Stephen Sadler, 03/29/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
John Barbowski, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Kevin Moore, 03/28/2009
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[NAFEX] weather,
Tim Inman, 03/28/2009
- Re: [NAFEX] weather, Mark Dorogi, 03/28/2009
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Re: [NAFEX] Weather,
Steve, 03/28/2009
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