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It was meant to be nonsensical. Can you tell me where I can buy some 
Ammonium? Ammonium nitrate is used in huge quantities as an explosive where 
I live and you don't need dynamite to set it off. Just mix it with some 
diesel fuel and then it can be set off with the primer from a rifle 
cartridge, but I am more interested in learning where to purchase some 
Ammonium. I have never seen it on the shelves of a store anywhere.

Rodney


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth@uslink.net>
To: "NAFEX" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:15 AM
Subject: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate


> Rodney,
>    Your are mixing terms to the point of being nonsensical.  Ammonium
> Nitrate is just that, Ammonium (NH4) + Nitrate(NO3).  Conscientious
> fertilizer dealers often don't sell it to just anyone because it is the
> stuff that was the primary ingredient for blowing up the Federal Courts
> Building in Oklahoma City.  Uniform delivery people can be too terrified 
> to
> have it in their truck - I had it delivered once and the driver was 
> relieved
> that it hadn't blown up yet - telling him that it needed another 
> ingredient
> AND dynamite to set it off failed to quell his fear.
>    Anyway, if you are fertilizing with any form of nitrate, adding just a
> smidgeon too much can burn your plants just as fast as urea will. 
> Ammonium
> is best because it is not available to plants until after soil bacteria
> convert ammonium to nitrate.  Soil bacteria provide a slow release of
> nitrate which is unlikely to ever burn plants.
>
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> www.bberryfarm.com
> (218)568-8483 [Store]
> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>
> I wonder what the tomatoes would have tasted like had they used ammonium
> nitrate to fertilize them. I say this with tongue in cheek because 
> ammonium
> nitrate has both names in it's name. I have to assume that "ammonium" is
> ammonium hydroxide (a more dangerous, for the handler, and expensive
> chemical than ammonium nitrate), although it could possibly be urea as it 
> is
> a commonly used fertilizer also. I have never purchased or ordered 
> ammonium
> via mail order but I suppose it can be acquired that way, but when I
> google  -    ammonium mail order     - I find lots of ammoniums that can 
> be
> ordered mail order; Ammonium Lactate, Ammonium Molybdate, Ammonium
> Thiocyanate, Ammonium Carbonate, Ammonium Chloride, Glufosinate Ammonium,
> ammonium hydrogen hemihydrate, ammonia (ammonium hydroxide diluted in
> water), ammonium bicarbonate, ammonium nitrate,  ammonium hydroxide, and
> more, but I really have no idea just which ammonium the Brits were using.
> Can I run down to the nearest nursery and order some ammonium?  What
> chemical do you think those researchers were using?
>
> Rodney Eveland
>
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