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["O'Barr, R. D." <topgun@otelco.net>]

Whoops. No it isn't.
I will go along with the danger however. In LA the pecan growers sometimes
used 'liquid' ammonia solution and knifed it into the ground. A packing
wheel followed.
I was called once to determine the cause of severe leaf scorch on pecan
leaves on trees that were next to a field that had used the liquid ammonia.
I found a tank in the field that had leaked ammonia fumes that had caused
the problem and we all know how bad ammonia is to living things.
Topgun
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "O'Barr, R. D." <topgun@otelco.net>
To: <reveland@bresnan.net>; "North American Fruit Explorers"
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate


> Ammonium is an adjective.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <reveland@bresnan.net>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate
>
>
> > It was meant to be nonsensical. Can you tell me where I can buy some
> > Ammonium? Ammonium nitrate is used in huge quantities as an explosive
> where
> > I live and you don't need dynamite to set it off. Just mix it with some
> > diesel fuel and then it can be set off with the primer from a rifle
> > cartridge, but I am more interested in learning where to purchase some
> > Ammonium. I have never seen it on the shelves of a store anywhere.
> >
> > Rodney
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth@uslink.net>
> > To: "NAFEX" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:15 AM
> > Subject: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate
> >
> >
> > > Rodney,
> > >    Your are mixing terms to the point of being nonsensical.  Ammonium
> > > Nitrate is just that, Ammonium (NH4) + Nitrate(NO3).  Conscientious
> > > fertilizer dealers often don't sell it to just anyone because it is
the
> > > stuff that was the primary ingredient for blowing up the Federal
Courts
> > > Building in Oklahoma City.  Uniform delivery people can be too
terrified
> > > to
> > > have it in their truck - I had it delivered once and the driver was
> > > relieved
> > > that it hadn't blown up yet - telling him that it needed another
> > > ingredient
> > > AND dynamite to set it off failed to quell his fear.
> > >    Anyway, if you are fertilizing with any form of nitrate, adding
just
> a
> > > smidgeon too much can burn your plants just as fast as urea will.
> > > Ammonium
> > > is best because it is not available to plants until after soil
bacteria
> > > convert ammonium to nitrate.  Soil bacteria provide a slow release of
> > > nitrate which is unlikely to ever burn plants.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Fruth
> > > Brambleberry Farm
> > > Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> > > www.bberryfarm.com
> > > (218)568-8483 [Store]
> > > (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
> > >
> > > I wonder what the tomatoes would have tasted like had they used
ammonium
> > > nitrate to fertilize them. I say this with tongue in cheek because
> > > ammonium
> > > nitrate has both names in it's name. I have to assume that "ammonium"
is
> > > ammonium hydroxide (a more dangerous, for the handler, and expensive
> > > chemical than ammonium nitrate), although it could possibly be urea as
> it
> > > is
> > > a commonly used fertilizer also. I have never purchased or ordered
> > > ammonium
> > > via mail order but I suppose it can be acquired that way, but when I
> > > google  -    ammonium mail order     - I find lots of ammoniums that
can
> > > be
> > > ordered mail order; Ammonium Lactate, Ammonium Molybdate, Ammonium
> > > Thiocyanate, Ammonium Carbonate, Ammonium Chloride, Glufosinate
> Ammonium,
> > > ammonium hydrogen hemihydrate, ammonia (ammonium hydroxide diluted in
> > > water), ammonium bicarbonate, ammonium nitrate,  ammonium hydroxide,
and
> > > more, but I really have no idea just which ammonium the Brits were
> using.
> > > Can I run down to the nearest nursery and order some ammonium?  What
> > > chemical do you think those researchers were using?
> > >
> > > Rodney Eveland
> > >
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