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It was written:

I bet you could get a list from your local extension office, probably 
reliable info.   Maybe talk to local arborists.   Also, try Internet 
searches, and focus 

My reply:

One would be inclined to think so...but...

The information I have gathered from a variety of sources is incongruent at 
best.   There is some general agreement on species, but the particulars are 
fuzzy in some families.    Locust trees are an example, some are listed as 
suceptible but they vary, what is listed on one list as suceptible is 
considered resistant on another. 

Oh well...

TFB


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>   1. Toma Bellas (Doreen Howard)
>   2. new book (Lon J. Rombough)
>   3. RE: Toma Bellas (Mark Lee)
>   4. Re: Surround with a spreader/sticker (longdistshtr)
>   5. Re: Toma Bellas (Lon J. Rombough)
>   6. Fwd: [CoolFruit] A dear friend has fallen,  Henry Converse
>      (miekal and)
>   7. Re: verticillium wilt in trees (tanis cuff)
>   8. Re: Fwd: [CoolFruit] A dear friend has fallen,  Henry
>      Converse (Lon J. Rombough)
>   9. Re: Toma Bellas (Doreen Howard)
>  10. King david Apples (Jason MacArthur)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:38:11 -0500
>From: "Doreen Howard" <doreenh@ticon.net>
>Subject: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>, <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>,
>       "Cheryl Long" <clong@motherearthnews.com>
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>A fresh produce ezine to which I subscribe had the following on a new
>vegetable hitting markets.  Does anyone know about this?
>Doreen Howard
>
>Toma Bellas are a hybrid fruit of tomatoes and bell peppers. Toma Bellas
>have the sweet flavor of the tomato with the crispy, crunchiness of bell
>pepper. Intense red in color with a squatty-bell shape, Toma Bellas maintain
>their crispness after cooking. Stuff with cold salads, fill and bake, or use
>them to serve dips and sauces.
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 09:45:46 -0700
>From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
>Subject: [NAFEX] new book
>To: NAFEX <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>,   Nutgrowers
>       <nutgrowers@yahoogroups.com>
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>Clive Simms, a UK member of NAFEX and the NNGA has written a nice little
>booklet on growing walnuts that should be a good addition to the collection
>of anyone interested in walnuts.  You can get information about it and order
>it at http://www.orchardhousebooks.com/
>-Lon Rombough 
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:16:34 -0700
>From: "Mark Lee" <markl@nytec.com>
>Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Message-ID: <NFBBLMMJCLEPEMPMLKKJCEOKCGAA.markl@nytec.com>
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>I'm not a produce expert, but I found the following via Google...
>
>The European standard for sweet peppers identifies 4 catagories of shapes:
>elongated (pointed)
>square (blunt)
>square tapering (peg top)
>flat (tomato pepper).
>
>Tomato peppers in the US are marketed as "Toma Bellas".
>These are not a cross between tomatoes and peppers, but rather a kind of
>sweet pepper.
>-Mark Lee, Seattle, zone 7B/8A
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Doreen Howard
>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:38 AM
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org; gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org; Cheryl
>Long
>Subject: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>
>
>A fresh produce ezine to which I subscribe had the following on a new
>vegetable hitting markets.  Does anyone know about this?
>Doreen Howard
>
>Toma Bellas are a hybrid fruit of tomatoes and bell peppers. Toma Bellas
>have the sweet flavor of the tomato with the crispy, crunchiness of bell
>pepper. Intense red in color with a squatty-bell shape, Toma Bellas maintain
>their crispness after cooking. Stuff with cold salads, fill and bake, or use
>them to serve dips and sauces.
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 14:10:24 -0400
>From: longdistshtr <longdistshtr@shtc.net>
>Subject: [NAFEX] Re: Surround with a spreader/sticker
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>Seems to me that adding anything which reduces the powdery consistency would
>negate its' primay efficacy as a spiracle plugger-upperer.
>Wrong or right? In the '60,s folks took acid to make the World look weird.
>Now
>the World is weird and they take Prozac to make it look normal.
>Doc Lisenby
>Eating figs, crabapples, apples and rabbiteyes in:
>Zone 7/8
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:28:49 -0700
>From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>When I took a vegetable crops class from Dr. James Baggett years ago, such
>flat, thick-walled types were called "Cheese Pak" types, after a variety
>that was more or less the prototype.
>-Lon Rombough
>
>From: "Mark Lee" <markl@nytec.com>
>Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:16:34 -0700
>To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>
>
>I'm not a produce expert, but I found the following via Google...
>
>The European standard for sweet peppers identifies 4 catagories of shapes:
>elongated (pointed)
>square (blunt)
>square tapering (peg top)
>flat (tomato pepper).
>
>Tomato peppers in the US are marketed as "Toma Bellas".
>These are not a cross between tomatoes and peppers, but rather a kind of
>sweet pepper.
>-Mark Lee, Seattle, zone 7B/8A
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Doreen Howard
>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:38 AM
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org; gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org; Cheryl
>Long
>Subject: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>
>
>A fresh produce ezine to which I subscribe had the following on a new
>vegetable hitting markets.  Does anyone know about this?
>Doreen Howard
>
>Toma Bellas are a hybrid fruit of tomatoes and bell peppers. Toma Bellas
>have the sweet flavor of the tomato with the crispy, crunchiness of bell
>pepper. Intense red in color with a squatty-bell shape, Toma Bellas maintain
>their crispness after cooking. Stuff with cold salads, fill and bake, or use
>them to serve dips and sauces.
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:02:01 -0500
>From: miekal and <dtv@mwt.net>
>Subject: [NAFEX] Fwd: [CoolFruit] A dear friend has fallen,  Henry
>       Converse
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>Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: "England's Orchard and Nursery" <nuttrees@prtcnet.org>
>> Date: Thu Jul 3, 2003  1:38:25 PM US/Central
>> To: <nutgrowers@yahoogroups.com>, <CoolFruit@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [CoolFruit] A dear friend has fallen,  Henry Converse
>> Reply-To: CoolFruit@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>    A dear friend to many of us as been stricken (with a Massive 
>> Stroke) On Saturday 28 June, 03.   Henry Converse 86 years old,  Home 
>> Paducha Ky. He is completely paralyzed on his right side and has not 
>> recognized any one as of today 03 July 03.   Lets please take a moment 
>> in thought and pray for Henry and his Family.  Henry has touched many 
>> of us over the years and He has influenced us in many ways.  From his 
>> days of editor and writer of the POMONA and (NNGA) Northern Nut 
>> Growers Association to his most recent position as the (KNGA) Kentucky 
>> Nut growers Associations Secretary and Dean of the Kentucky Nut 
>> Growers Association.   His dedication to the groups and willingness to 
>> share information has made him an asset to many of us. He has forever 
>> influenced my life as only a grandfather and dear friend could have 
>> and He will be forever remembered.
>>
>> Clifford England
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 19:23:55 +0000
>From: "tanis cuff" <tanistanis@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] verticillium wilt in trees
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>Message-ID: <Law12-F77fdqgg1zVFp0001bb14@hotmail.com>
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>Trees resistant to vert.wilt :
>I bet you could get a list from your local extension office, probably 
>reliable info.   Maybe talk to local arborists.   Also, try Internet 
>searches, and focus on info from/for your state & neighboring states.
>
>tc
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:25:02 -0700
>From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Fwd: [CoolFruit] A dear friend has fallen,  Henry
>       Converse
>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>This is sad news indeed.  For anyone priveleged to know Henry, he is an
>individual of the first water.  Letters from him are unique, with the
>shorthand system of writing he uses, which takes more than a little getting
>used to.  It sounds as if there will be no more such letters, no matter what
>the outcome of his stroke.  He has left a large shadow.
>-Lon Rombough
>>    A dear friend to many of us as been stricken (with a Massive
>> Stroke) On Saturday 28 June, 03.   Henry Converse 86 years old,  Home
>> Paducha Ky. He is completely paralyzed on his right side and has not
>> recognized any one as of today 03 July 03.   Lets please take a moment
>> in thought and pray for Henry and his Family.  Henry has touched many
>> of us over the years and He has influenced us in many ways.  From his
>> days of editor and writer of the POMONA and (NNGA) Northern Nut
>> Growers Association to his most recent position as the (KNGA) Kentucky
>> Nut growers Associations Secretary and Dean of the Kentucky Nut
>> Growers Association.   His dedication to the groups and willingness to
>> share information has made him an asset to many of us. He has forever
>> influenced my life as only a grandfather and dear friend could have
>> and He will be forever remembered.
>>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:34:56 -0500
>From: "Doreen Howard" <doreenh@ticon.net>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Message-ID: <002501c341d4$dc2cc6a0$bd81b542@oemcomputer>
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>Thanks for the information, Mark.  The fact that Toma Bellas are really
>peppers is interesting.
>Doreen Howard
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Lee" <markl@nytec.com>
>To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:16 PM
>Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Toma Bellas
>
>
>> I'm not a produce expert, but I found the following via Google...
>>
>> The European standard for sweet peppers identifies 4 catagories of shapes:
>> elongated (pointed)
>> square (blunt)
>> square tapering (peg top)
>> flat (tomato pepper).
>>
>> Tomato peppers in the US are marketed as "Toma Bellas".
>> These are not a cross between tomatoes and peppers, but rather a kind of
>> sweet pepper.
>> -Mark Lee, Seattle, zone 7B/8A
>>
>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:44:45 -0400
>From: Jason MacArthur <rotread@localnet.com>
>Subject: [NAFEX] King david Apples
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>Message-ID: <86C180A5-AE0C-11D7-8146-000393988B62@localnet.com>
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>
>I am wondering if anyone on this list has any experience tasting, 
>growing or making hard cider from the King David apple.  If so, what 
>are your impressions?  Thank you,
>
>Jason MacArthur
>Marlboro, Vermont
>Zone 4
>
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