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[Ginda Fisher <ginda@concentric.net>]

On a similar note, I once tried to kill poison ivy by pouring boiling 
water over it.  It killed the plant, but the air was full of a strong 
scent (quite pleasant, in a spinachy sort of way) and it suddenly 
occurred to me that I was probably volatilizing the toxin.

I was not hurt, but I may not be susceptible - I've never had poison 
ivy.  At any rate, it was a really dumb thing to do, and I won't do it 
again.

But I understand why goats like to eat it.  I bet it tastes good for a 
leave vegetable.

Also, if you chose to try to dig it out:  this method works well for 
younger plants, but you have to tease the roots out gently, to get as 
much as possible.  Poison ivy stores nutrients underground in tubers (or 
something like that) and if you leave lumpy bits of root behind, it 
grows back pretty quickly.

I cleared out the old stuff with herbicide when I moved in, but have 
kept it from regrowing by pulling it out.  I usually catch the 
seedlings, which are very easy to pull.  Occasionally, I miss something 
for a year or two, then I wear disposable rubber gloves, and wash well 
when I'm done.  I'm told that if you don't want to throw away the 
gloves, you should use cotton, as it's almost impossible to clean the 
oil off of rubber or leather gloves.

Ginda Fisher

On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 11:20 PM, Bill Russell wrote:

> I guess everyone knows not to burn poison ivy?? The smoke, even from a 
> long
> distance can severely damage a susceptable person's lungs and land them 
> in
> the hospital with serious problems. I have seen it happen.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam Franc" <franc@oregonfast.net>
> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Re: Killing Poison Ivy
>
>
> > My understanding is tha Roundup biodegrades rapidly after it is mixed 
> > with
> water.
> > If you leave some in the sprayer all mixed for a few days you will 
> > find it
> does not work anymore.
> > A normal spraying of 2-4-D washes into the soil and will migrate within
> the soil over a long period of time, but tests have shown that it moves 
> very
> slowly and in a normal soil (not sand) it will be many years before any
> shows up in the water table.
> > Sam
> >
> > Mauch1@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > > The best medicine is
> > > > 2,4-D applied when the plants are fully leafed out, and it >will have
> to
> > > > be done more than once, perhaps in successive seasons.  >Oddly 
> > > > enough,
> > > > 2,4-D is more effective than the much pricier glyphosate
> > > > (Roundup) at
> > > > eliminating p.i.
> > > I agree that Roundup is only moderately effective against p.i.
> > > One question that bounces around in my head is what happens after you
> spray?  Does the 2,4-D wash into streams or water table?  I remember 
> when
> Roundup first came up it was supposed to "bind to the soil particles", 
> this
> doesn't make me overly comfortable, but perhaps it prevents it from 
> washing
> into streams or the water table.
> > > 2,4-D is highly toxic to grapes, and it can, under certain atmospheric
> conditions be "reabsorbed" into air and drift (I'm not talking about 
> wind
> driven drift at the time of spraying).  Since it is a broad-leafed weed
> killer, it has been popular for corn.
> > Whlie our FDA does not monitor it, the European medical community has 
> > been
> using oral imunization methods for years now.
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