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  • From: "Gordon Nofs" <gc_nofs@hotmail.com>
  • To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Re: Killing Poison Ivy
  • Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:00:42 -0400

Sam
Roundup can be usless before you even get to spray it if your PH of the mixture is very high. It should be 5.5 Ph.
If you would like a list of the different sprays and the proper PH. Please contact me I have it. We had to remove the manufacturer's name to put it in the Michigan Nutgrowers.

Gordon C. Nofs
Flint, MI.
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----Original Message Follows----
From: Sam Franc <franc@oregonfast.net>
Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Re: Killing Poison Ivy
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 15:56:31 -0700

My understanding is tha Roundup biodegrades rapidly after it is mixed with water.
If you leave some in the sprayer all mixed for a few days you will find it does not work anymore.
A normal spraying of 2-4-D washes into the soil and will migrate within the soil over a long period of time, but tests have shown that it moves very slowly and in a normal soil (not sand) it will be many years before any shows up in the water table.
Sam

Mauch1@aol.com wrote:

> >The best medicine is
> >2,4-D applied when the plants are fully leafed out, and it >will have to
> >be done more than once, perhaps in successive seasons. >Oddly enough,
> >2,4-D is more effective than the much pricier glyphosate
> >(Roundup) at
> >eliminating p.i.
> I agree that Roundup is only moderately effective against p.i.
> One question that bounces around in my head is what happens after you spray? Does the 2,4-D wash into streams or water table? I remember when Roundup first came up it was supposed to "bind to the soil particles", this doesn't make me overly comfortable, but perhaps it prevents it from washing into streams or the water table.
>
> 2,4-D is highly toxic to grapes, and it can, under certain atmospheric conditions be "reabsorbed" into air and drift (I'm not talking about wind driven drift at the time of spraying). Since it is a broad-leafed weed killer, it has been popular for corn.

Whlie our FDA does not monitor it, the European medical community has been using oral imunization methods for years now.


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