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  • From: Nan Hildreth <NanHildreth AT riseup.net>
  • To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>,
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] clearing land cost?
  • Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 18:15:40 -0500

Frank, leasing land has its advantages. If I was shopping now I might buy a different place.

Yes, Farmer Breck, maybe nobody ever cleared all our place because it wasn't good enough. Hmmm. But folks here only worked on clearing and farming for about 100 years, from maybe 1850 to 1950, then gave up when factory farms made food so cheap. Now, they grow pines. Our county is not prime farm-land, like the prairies west of us, but we have more rain (47 inches) and the record drought of 2007-2008 cost them millions. The state climatologist told them to expect 100 year droughts more frequently in "The Impact of Global Warming In Texas", a free online report.

Yes, Kathryn, "To clear or not to clear?", is a complex question. ?Erosion? ?Will cutting down habitat of predators = more rabbits, voles, and mice in our crops? ?Shall I focus on learning how to grow mushrooms on forest leaf and wood? ?Shall I grow alliums under the oaks all winter and harvest when they leaf out? Would I understand the complexities better if I take the online permaculture course from http://www.permaculturevisions.com ?

Nan in the Piney Woods of East Texas

At 05:02 PM 5/8/2010, KAKerby AT aol.com wrote:
This is something of a loaded question, in the sense that there are quite a few variables at play. Hard to give a single yes/no answer without a whole lot more detail. Our farm started 10 years ago on overgrown forested land and most of it is still in that condition, so this is a very big, ongoing issue for us. I'd be happy to talk with you at length (off list cuz it's probably not pertinent to enough folks), to go over what we've done here, what's worked, what hasn't, etc. But I will say right now that we have yet to hire "the dozer man". And we have no plans at the moment to do so. Let me know if I can provide any more insight/assistance as you make your plans........
Kathryn Kerby
frogchorusfarm.com
Snohomish, WA

At 10:30 PM 5/8/2010, breck wrote:
Not always, but most times there is a reason for land being in forest rather
than crop land. Mature forest land that has not been protected located in an
agricultural area is likely that way for a reason. It is usually
unproductive for some reason, such as too steep, rocky or wet. Ask some of
the local farmers. Is it forest or just overgrown land? Still ask.

Thanks,
Farmer Breck
Breck Carden
Carden's Garden
2400 E Hwy 22
Crestwood, KY 40014-7704
breck AT breckcarden.com
www.breckcarden.com



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nan Hildreth
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:44 PM
To: Market Farming
Subject: [Market-farming] clearing land cost?

Is clearing forest land too expensive? Should I find a forest crop
instead? If I hire a dozer man, will he ruin the soil?


Nan Hildreth 713-842-6643

Action is the antidote to despair....
Joan Baez

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