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Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns
- From: "Maggie Palmer" <maggiepalmer AT wyoming.com>
- To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:19:49 -0700
What if
you didn't pay them, but traded the learning for the compensation, listed them
on your worker's comp and unemployment at zero for compensation. Zero
times your WC and UI rate = Zero, but you got those bases covered. If you
had a contract stating the intern understood there was no value to the learning
experience, etc.
Think I'll ask my
accountant.
Maggie
Palmer
Painted Sage
Farm
Daniel,
Wyo
"Never doubt that a small
group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it
is the only thing that ever has."
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From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Sisters of the Soil
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:49 PM
To: Market Farming
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns
Hi. Here's my two-cents on interns as contractors. It seems to
me that it would be difficult- for the simple reason that you do not want them
to be acting independently and without your direct supervision. Given that
interns are individuals seeking education and experience, there is
an implicit (if not explicit, per your description of the internship)
expectation of careful attention to the farmer's directives
and instructions. You probably, also, want to expect them
to be there on a reliable and consistent schedule that you dictate, to at least
some degree, etc. All of which smacks of "employee" status, rather
than "independent contractors" providing unique services, different from
those of employees, and performed under their own direction, etc. The
accountant said something like "if it quacks like a duck and acts like a
duck, the IRS and the state taxing entity will treat it like a duck, even if you
call it a cat." I don't know much about using a stipend approach and
need to investigate that more but I wonder if it might be the better way around
the whole tax withholding issue. Anyone with experience or thoughts about
that approach?
Doreen
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, TxBeeFarmer <txbeefarmer AT gmail.com>
wrote:
I was hoping interns could be considered contract labor with no withholdings from their check. Does anyone know if there are any tax benefits? I hear Joel Salatin (Polyface Farm) is big on interns.TxBeeFarmer (Mark)
West Texas Zone 7b
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Re: [Market-farming] Bell Peppers and Hot Peppers
, (continued)
- Re: [Market-farming] Bell Peppers and Hot Peppers, Bill Bradshaw, 12/15/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] Fwd: CSA worker payment, Brigette Leach, 12/14/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Road's End Farm, 12/14/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Thomas Patrick Hurtgen, 12/15/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, BarbaraJ, 12/15/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, TxBeeFarmer, 12/30/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Road's End Farm, 12/30/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Sisters of the Soil, 12/31/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Allan.Balliett, 12/31/2009
- [Market-farming] Another IRS question, Allan.Balliett, 12/31/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Maggie Palmer, 12/31/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] was CSA worker payment: now interns, Andy Fellenz, 12/31/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] CSA worker payment, Richard Stewart, 12/15/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] CSA worker payment, E C GRANATA, 12/13/2009
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Re: [Market-farming] Market-farming] planting calendar wish AND mappingtool wish,
Willie McKemie, 12/10/2009
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Re: [Market-farming] Market-farming] planting calendar wish AND mappingtool wish,
Allan Balliett, 12/10/2009
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Re: [Market-farming] marking pens that don't fade,
Road's End Farm, 12/10/2009
- Re: [Market-farming] marking pens that don't fade, Kathy Somers, 12/10/2009
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Re: [Market-farming] marking pens that don't fade,
Road's End Farm, 12/10/2009
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Re: [Market-farming] Market-farming] planting calendar wish AND mappingtool wish,
Allan Balliett, 12/10/2009
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