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  • From: "Sean Albiston" <lab AT physics.umn.edu>
  • To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] are you a global warming deniers?
  • Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:21:27 +0000

MaiStevene, so your saying you enjoy the luxury of ignoring, and to some
degree can appreciate, what other less fortunate folks see as a stark
reality. Big pat on the back for using your hat rack!

Good luck, sean albiston
-----Original Message-----
From: "Sharon and Steve" <shopkins AT tdstelme.net>

Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:00:43
To:"Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] are you a global warming deniers?



>
> Are you denying the objective data showing the world's temperatures
> are getting warmer?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No,and I am sure enjoying it, but the increase is minimal and the effect is
more in the area of moderation in my area, I am getting a month frost free
at each end of the season here.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the objective data that the world's ice packs are
> rapidly disappearing?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No, an activity that started over 150 years ago, half of the ice fields were
gone by the early 1900's.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the data showing the effects of burning massive
> amounts of coal?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sure the main effect is a hell of a lot of electricity.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the effect of humans running hundreds of millions of
> atmospheric heaters (automobile engines) each and every day?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Here again the main effect is that a lot of folk get to and from places they
want to go. as far as the heat generated: a year of it is less energy
generated that a few minutes of a sunny day.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the objective data that thew world is significantly
> warmer where humans exist in concentration (cities) as opposed to
> where they aren't as concentrated?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
See above.
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>
> Are you denying that the human population has doubled in our (well at
> least my) lifetime with the concomitant increase in heating, food
> production, transportation, clothing, housing needs?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Not in the least, and I think we are doing a fine job of feeding, clothing
and feeding them. It is just too bad that so many have to live under
opressive left wing governments that choose to steal the resources rather
than let all prosper.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the millions of tons of exhaust from the massive
> engines needed to transport the millions of large aircraft that are
> in the worlds skies at any moment?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nope, have not flown in years, dont plan to.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the effect of the hundreds of millions of tons human
> biological waste that are dumped into the worlds oceans and rivers
> every hour?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No, it is a damn shame.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Are you denying the effect of human activity that that modifies the
> worlds ecosystem by
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Far enough right there, are you denying that it takes a hell of an ego to
think that man can significantly (your word so assign the value of your
choice)
alter the climate of this planet? I will bet it even takes a bigger ego
that lets one think thay have a way to fix it.

If you intend for me to think that man has much to do with the recorded one
half of one degree C increase that has occured in recent decades I will need
a few answers:

Why has energy recieved from the sun increased more than the
heat generated by man?

Why has the temperature on other planets in the solar system (where we have
the facility to measure) increased?

If earths temp increase is primarily due to natural cycles (and it is) in
the earths way of doing things what gives Algore followers the right to mess
with it, I dont want eco dreamers designing my weather.

MAsteveINE








covering soil with asphalt, concrete and other
> non water absorbing materials and instead of the water being absorbed
> into the soil and then evaporated back into the air it now runs off
> through drainage systems into rivers where it is deposited into the
> salt laden oceans?
>
> And those are only a few of the engines of global warming so instead
> of denying your own eyes lets start thinking about what can be done
> to not pollute our own nest.
>
> (I imagine the argument that says that Avery is funded by the oil and
> coal industry besides being based on objective truth is the complete
> amazement on the part of some people wondering how anyone can be as
> silly as Avery and his cohorts are in their arguments. Their thoughts
> must run something like 'no one can really be as stupid and mindless
> as Avery appears to be.' Instead they assume he's not a moron and
> that he is in the pay of the people making money out of pollution.
> Me, I think he's really that dumb. I think he really believes the
> childish gibberish that comes out of his mouth and word processor.
> My question, though, is: are the people that print his stuff also
> that stupid? or are they along for the ride looking for a good laugh
> to see if anyone out there will actually take what he says seriously.
> I think his writings are a real roar, sort of on the lines of The
> Onion).
>
> --
> Every rock has an inherent logic you're not aware of until you see a fake
> rock.
> - Stanley Kubrick
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