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  • From: "Adriana" <gutierrez-lagatta AT charter.net>
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  • Subject: [Market-farming] Re: Market-farming Digest, Vol 19, Issue 29
  • Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 12:04:48 -0500


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> 1. Black-eyed pea storage (TxBeeFarmer)
> 2. RE: Black-eyed pea storage (Catherine S)
> 3. Re: Black-eyed pea storage (Alan Whitaker)
> 4. Re: Re:Delicata in Saran Wrap for lunch (Bill Huhman)
> 5. Re: Re:Delicata in Saran Wrap for lunch (Margaret L Wilson)
> 6. Drip-tape (Willfindley AT aol.com)
> 7. RE: Ohio Market Regulations - Wow! (ghfarm AT sbcglobal.net)
> 8. RE: Ohio Market Regulations - Wow! (Jill Bussiere)
> 9. Re: Drip-tape (Willie McKemie)
> 10. Re: Drip-tape (Alan Whitaker)
> 11. Re: Drip-tape (Bill Bradshaw)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:40:05 -0500
> From: "TxBeeFarmer" <TxBeeFarmer AT HotPop.com>
> Subject: [Market-farming] Black-eyed pea storage
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Oh great and wise Market Farming Group. I come to you with a storage
> problem. The new Farmer's Market that we created is in it's infancy.
Often
> growers, me included, find they have produce left over at the end of the
> market, we have it on Tuesdays and Saturdays. The biggest problem I have
is
> storing the black-eyed peas until next market. What's the best way to
store
> them for 3 or 4 days and keep them fresh enough to sell? Someone
mentioned
> spreading them out on the floor in a cool place. I could buy a sheller,
but
> what about the snaps?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> (West Texas) Mark
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:54:59 -0500
> From: "Catherine S" <farmerwantabe AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Black-eyed pea storage
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> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:55:44 -0500
> From: "Alan Whitaker" <awhitaker AT greenlynk.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Black-eyed pea storage
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Short of refrigeration, I don't think you have much of a chance to keep
peas
> for 4 days. Where you are at, they most likely will start to dry. Here
in
> the SE, they will start to mold in a couple of days. The snaps will be
> awfully wilted too.
> If you could find a place to have them shelled, that would be ideal. You
> could bag and put 'em in a fridge then. Several bushels at that.
> I used to have some plans for a sheller with paddles. It's a drum that
> rotates one way, and the paddles rotate the other way. It essentially
> beats the pea/bean/butter bean out of the shell. If I can't find it, I'll
> ask our new extension agent if he can get me a copy of it from Auburn
> University. I might get permission to post it also. Let me know if
you're
> interested. Might be a good winter project for you.
>
> Alan Whitaker
> Georgiana, AL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TxBeeFarmer <TxBeeFarmer AT HotPop.com>
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 5:40 PM
> Subject: [Market-farming] Black-eyed pea storage
>
>
> > Oh great and wise Market Farming Group. I come to you with a storage
> > problem. The new Farmer's Market that we created is in it's infancy.
> Often
> > growers, me included, find they have produce left over at the end of the
> > market, we have it on Tuesdays and Saturdays. The biggest problem I have
> is
> > storing the black-eyed peas until next market. What's the best way to
> store
> > them for 3 or 4 days and keep them fresh enough to sell? Someone
> mentioned
> > spreading them out on the floor in a cool place. I could buy a sheller,
> but
> > what about the snaps?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > (West Texas) Mark
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:46:33 -0400
> From: Bill Huhman <bill AT farmerbill.downhomecountry.info>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Re:Delicata in Saran Wrap for lunch
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20040828211057.03a068e0 AT pop.1and1.com>
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> At 02:53 PM 8/26/2004, you wrote:
> >While we are on this subject, I have a question. I use a microwave a
> >lot. It saves a lot of time. I have cattle and sheep and I freeze extra
> >colostrum for orphans and more. Directions from veterinarians say very
> >clearly, "Do not thaw or reheat in the microwave"
> >It has given me second thoughts about using it to cook or even reheat
> >food. If it destroys all of the antibodies etc. in colostrum does it not
> >do the same in other food?
> >TIA
> >Margaret
> > Re:Delicata in Saran Wrap for lunch
>
> Hi Margaret,
> With baby birds, we don't heat the food in a microwave when hand-rearing
> due to the tendency of a microwave to heat unevenly, thus the possibility
> of burning the baby's gullet due to hot spots. I'd be more likely to think
> this is the reason not to thaw colostrum in the microwave, as well as the
> fact that antibodies are huge protein molecules that are very sensitive to
> overheating from any source.
>
> From http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/foods/g1508.htm:
> A microwave oven may be used for warming baby food. Heat a few seconds
> and let the food stand a short time before serving. Stir food thoroughly
> because hot spots can be created. Food may feel cool to the touch but be
> hot in the middle.
>
> From
>
http://www.verybestbaby.com/content/article.asp?section=fb&id=20019281542581575717469#Q3:
> Q: Why does it say on the label not to use the microwave to warm formula?
> A: Heating a bottle of formula in the microwave is not recommended because
> microwaves create hot spots that may burn your baby's mouth and throat.
>
> IMO, microwaves are like anything--safe if you use them right, hazardous
if
> you don't.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:20:03 -0700
> From: "Margaret L Wilson" <booldawgs AT cavenet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Re:Delicata in Saran Wrap for lunch
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <001c01c48d7f$7536b8a0$33a60ecf@computer>
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>
> Thanks, that has some merit. If I had more time I would do some research
on it. I just also read an article concerning frozen meat. Chefs don't
like to use it because it bleeds on the plate. New research says that
proper thawing (slowly in the refrigerator) eliminates that problem. Good
information if meat is part of your sales.
> Margaret
> >
> > Hi Margaret,
> > With baby birds, we don't heat the food in a microwave when hand-rearing
> > due to the tendency of a microwave to heat unevenly, thus the
possibility
> > of burning the baby's gullet due to hot spots. I'd be more likely to
think
> > this is the reason not to thaw colostrum in the microwave, as well as
the
> > fact that antibodies are huge protein molecules that are very sensitive
to
> > overheating from any source.
> >
> > From http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/foods/g1508.htm:
> > A microwave oven may be used for warming baby food. Heat a few seconds
> > and let the food stand a short time before serving. Stir food thoroughly
> > because hot spots can be created. Food may feel cool to the touch but be
> > hot in the middle.
> >
> > From
> >
http://www.verybestbaby.com/content/article.asp?section=fb&id=20019281542581575717469#Q3:
> > Q: Why does it say on the label not to use the microwave to warm
formula?
> > A: Heating a bottle of formula in the microwave is not recommended
because
> > microwaves create hot spots that may burn your baby's mouth and throat.
> >
> > IMO, microwaves are like anything--safe if you use them right, hazardous
if
> > you don't.
> >
> > Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:35:35 EDT
> From: Willfindley AT aol.com
> Subject: [Market-farming] Drip-tape
> To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <f4.3f507cc1.2e5c73f7 AT aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Dear List,
> Weâ?Tre looking for the right drip system for our new, one-acre vegetable
farm,
> which we just moved to three weeks ago. Iâ?Tve lurked for months on this
> [fantastic] list and read all the relevant posts, but after reading the
companiesâ?T
> literature -- Berry Hill, Irrigation-Mart, and Robert Marvel -- I canâ?Tt
decide
> between T-tape, Queen Gil, and the new entry, Toroâ?Ts Aquatraxx, which
Berry
> Hill is touting. I suppose theyâ?Tre all probably pretty good, but is
anyone
> aware of any specific advantages or disadvantages of any of these tapes?
And does
> the thickness really matter? Will a west-central Alabama rodent tire of
> chewing on 15 ml, or can I get by with a thinner wall? Most seem to think
it's
> worth it to spring for the thicker type of tape. We're on sandy loam with
a clay
> underlayer, and the fields are pretty flat.
> Thanks,
> Bill and Jan
> AL 8a or b?
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:00:04 -0500
> From: <ghfarm AT sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Ohio Market Regulations - Wow!
> To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <20040825210050.E49E520014 AT happyhouse.metalab.unc.edu>
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> Yea,
>
> Here in the heart of Kansas, the Ag dept people must be transplanted
Ohios.
>
> Ron
>
> ?)
>
> > Here in Southern Ohio we are having the State inspector follow the
local
> health department checking on market practices. The information is
changing
> week to week. Many vendors are annoyed (including me). It seems that now
if
> any whole product (i.e. green beans) that is placed into a bag at the farm
> and brought to the market, it must have a cottage industry "home produced
> at, ingredients, and name and phone number".
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 08:32:34 -0500
> From: "Jill Bussiere" <jdt AT itol.com>
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Ohio Market Regulations - Wow!
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <KEEJKBBJIDEJAGCEJGFHMEDMEDAA.jdt AT itol.com>
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> It's probably the homeland security policy to ensure the safety of our
> food:^) (You know I am kidding, right?)
>
> Here's a question for people - this is the first time I have grown
spaghetti
> squash - how do you tell if it is ripe?
>
> Jill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of
> ghfarm AT sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:00 PM
> To: 'Market Farming'
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Ohio Market Regulations - Wow!
>
>
> Yea,
>
> Here in the heart of Kansas, the Ag dept people must be transplanted
Ohios.
>
> Ron
>
> ?)
>
> > Here in Southern Ohio we are having the State inspector follow the
local
> health department checking on market practices. The information is
changing
> week to week. Many vendors are annoyed (including me). It seems that now
if
> any whole product (i.e. green beans) that is placed into a bag at the farm
> and brought to the market, it must have a cottage industry "home produced
> at, ingredients, and name and phone number".
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 07:24:29 -0500
> From: Willie McKemie <mf AT austinfarm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Drip-tape
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <20040829122429.GI18507 AT spamcop.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> > aware of any specific advantages or disadvantages of any of these tapes?
And does
> > the thickness really matter? Will a west-central Alabama rodent tire of
>
> Here, rodents will chew through any thickness. It is insects that the
> 15mil is more resistant to. I'm not sure what insects. Wireworms? I
> just know little pin holes are more of a problem on light weight
> material. This is on buried lines, maybe 2"-6". If you're not
> organic, I recommend a healthy dose of soil insecticide at drip line
> laying time. Stock a supply of repair couplings.
>
> I don't think there is any great difference between the different
> brands. I do recommend Irrigation Mart.
>
>
> --
> Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog!
> Good Health: the slowest way to die
> Linux system uptime 62 days 20 hours 44 minutes
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 08:52:58 -0500
> From: "Alan Whitaker" <awhitaker AT greenlynk.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Drip-tape
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <008301c48dcf$7f376520$24d4fea9@oemcomputer>
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> I'm in south-central AL. I use Queen-gil and like the ease of use. But,
AL field rats are a pain. I have reasoned that they are after easy water
and are chewing thru the tape for that. This year, I set out water dishes
for them at the end of my beds. It worked until it got dry in late spring
and I forgot about them. Then I had holes chewed in a couple of runs. I'm
going to put out bait stations and water for the little devils this fall.
I'm setting out another 100 or so tomato plants in a couple of weeks plus
traditional winter crops. I would recommend the heaviest I could afford. I
believe I'm using a 6 or 8 mil. Queen-gil. Good luck!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Willfindley AT aol.com
> To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:35 AM
> Subject: [Market-farming] Drip-tape
>
>
> Dear List,
> Weâ?Tre looking for the right drip system for our new, one-acre
vegetable farm, which we just moved to three weeks ago. Iâ?Tve lurked for
months on this [fantastic] list and read all the relevant posts, but after
reading the companiesâ?T literature -- Berry Hill, Irrigation-Mart, and
Robert Marvel -- I canâ?Tt decide between T-tape, Queen Gil, and the new
entry, Toroâ?Ts Aquatraxx, which Berry Hill is touting. I suppose theyâ?Tre
all probably pretty good, but is anyone aware of any specific advantages or
disadvantages of any of these tapes? And does the thickness really matter?
Will a west-central Alabama rodent tire of chewing on 15 ml, or can I get by
with a thinner wall? Most seem to think it's worth it to spring for the
thicker type of tape. We're on sandy loam with a clay underlayer, and the
fields are pretty flat.
> Thanks,
> Bill and Jan
> AL 8a or b?
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 09:54:04 -0500
> From: Bill Bradshaw <billbradshaw AT direcway.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Drip-tape
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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>
>
> Dear List,
> Weâ?Tre looking for the right drip system for our new, one-acre
vegetable farm, which we just moved to three weeks ago. Iâ?Tve lurked for
months on this [fantastic] list and read all the relevant posts, but after
reading the companiesâ?T literature -- Berry Hill, Irrigation-Mart, and
Robert Marvel -- I canâ?Tt decide between T-tape, Queen Gil, and the new
entry, Toroâ?Ts Aquatraxx, which Berry Hill is touting. Bill and Jan
>
>
> Bill & Jan, we use drip on about 15 acres. I also would recommend
Irrigation -Mart good people and very knowledgeable. I don't think there is
a choice between aquatrax and T-tape. We have used both with success. Queen
Gill I have never used. So do not have an opinion.
> Rodents will be a problem with any tape. If you are wanting to reuse
your tape go for the heaver tape 10- 15 mil. We use 8 mil. but do not reuse
it. As Willie has said keep plenty of repair supplies on hand.
> Irrigation - Mart will help you design your system. From manual to
automatic, they will need to know water source, gallons per. min.,how long
the rows are, what the slope is, how far the field is from the water source.
TexasBill
>
>
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