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[John Neil <John.Neil AT uts.edu.au>]

Ok, cheers Dave for spelling it out again without letting on that you're
basically having to repeat yourself - I guess I needed the 'speak to me like
I'm five' approach, as it takes me a moment to get my head around it, my
apologies: let's see if I've got it now in answering your question to help
me move on - 

My misapprehension was to think that I could get www.mysite.com copuld
function as the clean URL for both Drupal and Lyceum root as I
underestimated the 'magic' of .htaccess - www.mysite.com is always and in
every case the Drupal root. Users access the lyceum index through their own
URL identifier myuser.mysite.com and this I assumed could be the clean URL
for lyceum. However this is not a lyceum url as it will be processed as a
Drupal url and hence we are back to the starting point. Ok so far.      

So my understanding now is that the Lyceum clean url in the form of
myuser.mysite.com can only be achieved by having the Drupal install at
www.mysite.com/drupal/   

>If all Drupal pages are access by 
>something like www.mydomain.com/drupal/... then we're in great shape.
 
If that is the requirement for achieving myuser.mysite.com as lyceum root
then I will move Drupal from site root to www.mysite.com/drupal

Would that be your recommendation?

Cheers and thanks again.


-----Original Message-----
From: DaveG [mailto:lyceum AT solidgone.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:19 PM
To: John Neil
Cc: lyceum-users AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Lyceum-users] .htaccess and redirects

Again, the basic problem we have here is determining from a clean-url 
whether to redirect to Lyceum or Drupal. We simply have to determine a 
pattern for Lyceum clean-urls which is a different format somehow to the 
Drupal clean-urls. With this we can write .htaccess rules to redirect 
the software to either Lyceum or Drupal. It's like a traffic cop: If we 
have a URL with /blog in it, then I know it's Lyceum, so go over here. 
Or, if I see a URL starting with something other than www., then assume 
it's Lyceum, etc. More below.

John Neil wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> The problem with this is going to be the root of Lyceum would also be
>> mydomain.com (ie, no www.), so now we'd have to handle each case, or each
>> page that Lyceum uses with no subdomain prefix.
>>     
> I'll take your word for this although I'm not sure what it means: does
there
> need to be a lyceum root (is that portal.php) or is the admin for each
> individual blog?
>   
There will always be a Lyceum root somewhere, and that is basically 
defined as being where portal.php is located. The example I was trying 
to give was that Lyceum uses the root of the domain (mydomain.com or 
www.mydomain.com) as it's admin area. So if a user accesses 
www.mydomain.com do we display Lyceum's portal.php or Drupals start 
page? (see below for more)

What format are the Drupal url's in -- you provided one example, but we 
need more to be able to help. If all Drupal pages are access by 
something like www.mydomain.com/drupal/... then we're in great shape.

>> There are a number of approaches you could take, but the easiest (given 
>> that you already have a Drupal based site) is to make all lyceum urls be 
>> like myuser.mydomain.com/lyceum/... We'll then assume any url without 
>> the /lyceum/ part is Drupal.
>>     
> This was approach was how I originally conceived it happening. My
> requirement is that users can have a clean and identifiable url as in
> myuser.mydomain.com without having to complicate the visual presence with
a
> subdirectory. Given that I would not be keen on replacing the static
> (Drupal) site does all the above indicate that I may have to compromise
and
> have a myuser.mysite.com/lyceum url as standard for individual blogs?
>   
Basically, yes -- it doesn't need to be /lyceum though, it could simply 
be /blog or something else. We need to have a way of determining whether 
the clean URL needs to get directed to Lyceum or Drupal -- we do this by 
having one style clean-url for Lyceum, and another for Drupal. One way 
to differentiate is to have /blog in the url. There are other ways.


Example 1:
Lyceum URL: user1.mydomain.com/blog  -- we can write rules to resolve 
this to: user1.mydomain.com/lyceum/...

Example 2:
Lyceum URL: user1.mydomain.com/  -- (ie, not www.) we can write rules to 
resolve this to: user1.mydomain.com/lyceum/...
BUT what do we do with the www.mydomain.com? Do we redirect to Lyceum or 
Drupal? If Drupal, then what URL is the Lyceum Admin/base page going to 
reside at?

 ~ ~ Dave