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  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The only way to tell what your soil reallyneeds???
  • Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 17:22:54 -0700

One item of weed reading is nettles. They tend to occur densely where there
is a high concentration of nitrogen.
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---- Andeanfx <andeanfx@midrivers.com> wrote:
> Thanks Pete, this was well put. I "used to be" one of those Dr. things
> :-). I guess once the degree is conferred it sticks for life. Not an M.D.
> but close enough to see how things work from that side of the fence and
> this is very true.
>
> I would like very much to have reasonably concise information on reading
> the weeds and as you put it "other fctors" which I am going to take as
> simple observation of what the plant is doing and hw it is acting.
>
> Does anybody have favorite books or reference material on the above?
>
> Thanks Dean
>
>
> I have been through some terrible things in my life, some of which actually
> happened. -- Mark Twain
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Vukovich
> To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The only way to tell what your soil
> reallyneeds???
>
>
> I understand what you're saying, but the same goes for doctors you
> see more than one, in most cases they will draw different conclusions for
> the same set of symptoms, even if its the same doctor on different days.
> Unfortunately I'm absolutely serious about this. If they have different
> specialties or are a gp vs a specialist they will almost always draw the
> conclusion that fits their profession/most recent marketing material/most
> recent patient/ or journal article. Very few can diagnose even simple
> infections even given a lab test.
>
> If you know a little about the labs testing methodology (eg are
> they testing for aluminum or looking at boron directly) then it gives you a
> clearer idea of where their biases might be. It also helps you choose a lab
> if you run into a similar situation later on. But just like a doctor its
> not something I think most people would worry about until their soil is
> sick and they can't read the weeds , don't know the history , can't tell
> from other factors, and don't have any intuition as to whats causing its
> condition.
>
> ---pete
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/28/10, pete <pete.rout@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: pete <pete.rout@virgin.net>
> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The only way to tell what your
> soil really needs???
> To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
> <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:34 AM
>
>
> I think what most people are saying is that as the test doesn't
> really tell you anything, as if you send to more than one tester you get
> more than one answer, is there really any point in testing?
> Pete
>
> > I'm bowing out of this discussion (and am pondering my
> continuance on this list). When the majority of people here (people that I
> thought had more ability to reason) believe that if one were to obtain a
> soil test that somehow one is FORCED to use chemical fertilizers. Where is
> the logic in this?
> >
> > I wonder what would have happened if all those revered
> institutions never bothered to perform soil tests?
> >
> > Yes, we're all fighting the corporate system, but this is
> starting to have all the feel of fighting fanaticism with fanaticism.
> >
> >
> > -Mark Nagel
> > Everett, WA
>
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