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  • From: <pbunch@cox.net>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The only way to tell what your soil really needs???
  • Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 6:16:09 -0700

I think that like medicine, soil management is part art and part science. We
human beans don't "know" as much as we sometime think :-)

---- Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I understand what you're saying, but the same goes for doctors you see more
> than one, in most cases they will draw different conclusions for the same
> set of symptoms, even if its the same doctor on different days.
> Unfortunately I'm absolutely serious about this. If they have different
> specialties or are a gp vs a specialist they will almost always draw the
> conclusion that fits their profession/most recent marketing material/most
> recent patient/ or journal article. Very few can diagnose even simple
> infections even given a lab test.
>
>  If you know a little about the labs testing methodology (eg are they
> testing for aluminum or looking at boron directly) then it gives you a
> clearer idea of where their biases might be. It also helps you choose a lab
> if you run into a similar situation later on. But just like a doctor its
> not something I think most people would worry about until their soil is
> sick and they can't read the weeds , don't know the history , can't tell
> from other factors, and don't have any intuition as to whats causing its
> condition.
>
> ---pete
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/28/10, pete <pete.rout@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> From: pete <pete.rout@virgin.net>
> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The only way to tell what your soil really
> needs???
> To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
> <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:34 AM
>
> I think what most people are saying is that as the test doesn't really tell
> you anything, as if you send to more than one tester you get more than one
> answer, is there really any point in testing?
> Pete
>
> > I'm bowing out of this discussion (and am pondering my continuance on
> > this list).  When the majority of people here (people that I thought had
> > more ability to reason) believe that if one were to obtain a soil test
> > that somehow one is FORCED to use chemical fertilizers.  Where is the
> > logic in this?
> >
> > I wonder what would have happened if all those revered institutions never
> > bothered to perform soil tests?
> >
> > Yes, we're all fighting the corporate system, but this is starting to
> > have all the feel of fighting fanaticism with fanaticism.
> >
> >
> > -Mark Nagel
> > Everett, WA
>
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