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  • From: Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Lester Brown on rising temperatures
  • Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:28:06 -0700 (PDT)

I think it might be a comedy club,  25 or so years ago we'd head over to for a lecture once and a while when we couldn't afford to afford the cover charges at a real comedy club. It never really had much of a reputation academically, except for having been endowed. Where the unpublishable go to pontificate I think. Rumsfeld being a distinguish fellow sort of tells you what the entry bar is.




--- On Mon, 8/16/10, pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:

From: pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Lester Brown on rising temperatures
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 4:32 PM

Please note the credentials of the Hoover Institution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Institution where Thomas Gale Moore is a Senior Fellow. It is precisely these folks, among others,  who form the philosophical bedrock on which the growth economy, market capitalism and big finance are built.  I don't think they are our friends and I think that they actively support the societal forces that are driving us into the ground.

---- paul@oneseedling.com wrote:
> http://www.stanford.edu/~moore/Boon_To_Man.html
>
> Pego,
> Try above link.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Pego Rice <firekeeper38@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul
> > 
> > I think that is inaccurate.  That extended period was only 1-2 degrees warmer at most and we had neither the population nor the rapid industial heat ramp up that we are currently experiencing.  The "majority" of climatologists that I am seeing agree both to that and that this ramp up will cause our climate to overshoot that 2 degrees quite badly.
> > 
> > One to 2 degrees coming on so violently will cause quite a number of disruptions in our weather, which we've already begun to see, however, if we can restrain ourselves sufficiently in time to stop a greater increase, the damage will be somewhat manageable.  There were actually 2 of those warm periods, the second was the time oif the Dark Ages when England grew grapes.
> > 
> >
> > <<Most climate experts agree that during the Greek classical period temperatures were some 3-4 degrees warmer than today.
> > 
> > There is no doubt we need to lower our carbon footprint. This will happen either as a conscious effort or as an act of omission.>> Paul the Skeptic>>
> >
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