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  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Black Soldier Flys
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 4:48:16 -0700

John:

Your climate sounds very similar to what we have at Piedras Blancas (2400
meters and about 6 30 N). Frost is a very rare occurrence here but is
supposed to have happened. I have my doubts. We normally get highs between
about 20 and 22C and lows rarely go below about 10C. Recently they have have
been a few degrees higher. We do get a lot of rain.

Phil Bunch

---- John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 07/18/2010 02:43 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> >> I have been looking for a few years now how to get something like this
> >> started here on our farm in Ireland and found only a void.
> >> One man complained about black soldier flies in a compost heap some 400
> >> miles from where I am. . . ~john
> >
> > John, do you know your climate zone there? In the US, BSF are native at
> > least through Zone 7, though the northern edge of their range is really
> > not "nailed down" with any certainty--folks north of 7 often find they
> > have an ambient population to work with. I haven't done much research in
> > BSF in other contries, other than learning that they are common in the
> > tropics/sub-tropics, hence well suited to bioconversion there.
> >
> > ~Harvey
>
> Hi Harvey,
> the climate in Ireland can not so simply be caught in a "zone". Your zone's
> are land/continental zones while we have a sea/Atlantic climate. Maximum
> temperature does not go high above 20 C outside ever. The average
> difference
> between the coldest and the warmest month of the year is just 9 C. Night
> frost is possible in any month but really we have no very cold temperatures
> even in winter (although we had uniquely 5 months of solid frost last
> winter) That is the most typical thing here, that nothing is certain. The
> temperature can change from zero C to 20 in ten minutes and back to zero
> ten
> minutes later. That is hard on many plants except for a few that are used
> to
> it.
>
> I have seen a very few black soldier flies in the wild but usually with
> more
> than a year in between observations. And I have not seen any interest in
> rotting vegetation. So if I want to start culturing these (with protection
> in a poly tunnel) I'd best find someone who has already got a colony
> established.
> john
>
>
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