Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[<pbunch@cox.net>]

I did a bit of googling on these critters in Colombia and it turns out a 
couple of the major universities and at least one biotech firm are working 
with them. As the biotech is in Bogota at +/- 2600 meters they could be a 
really good source of information. Two of the the universities are here in 
Medellin.

Has anyone seen data on using this species for human wastes. Some of the 
sites I have seen so far hint at it. One mentions the use of a urine 
diverting mechanism. I don't know it they were referring to a human or 
livestock loop.  It seems that one would want to be very careful using the 
larvae produce in this manner as part of a human food cycle. Sounds like 
there would be a potential for the transmission of bacteria and virus in say 
a human-soldier fly-chicken-human loop.

Phil
Piedras Blancas/Medellin
---- CHERYL WESOLOWSKI <mullski1@msn.com> wrote: 
> 
> Don't know if it legal but it is very effective, use a privy and feed the 
> human waste to black soldier flies.  
> 
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> http://www.esrint.com/pages/bioconversion.html
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> > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:10:50 -0700
> > From: pbunch@cox.net
> > To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] sewage systems
> > 
> > What kinds, if any, of problems can develop with odors?
> > 
> > 
> > ---- Ken Hargesheimer <minifarms2@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> > > The water leaving the system is drinkable.  No problem.  
> > > 
> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] sewage systems
> > > To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" 
> > > <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 7:34 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We need to expand our treatment system to accommodate people who will 
> > > be visiting our place.  My wife is getting ready to rent rooms as part 
> > > of a tourism project and and we will need to add capacity for about 6 
> > > to 8 people (initially sporadic use but potentially full time). Our 
> > > subsoil drains slowly so a traditional drain field would need to be 
> > > rather large and importing the gravel would be difficult as there is no 
> > > road access. Also as we are located in a watershed reserve with a major 
> > > tourism component this is a sensitive issue. .We don't want to pollute 
> > > water that is critical to the city and we can't afford to have odor 
> > > problems due to both the guests and close proximity of hikers, etc.
> > > 
> > > I would be interested in hearing how others have solved these kinds of 
> > > issues.
> > > 
> > > Phil
> > > Medellin/Piedras Blancas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---- Emery Mitchamore <emitch@att.net> wrote: 
> > > > The EXPLANATION was over-simplistic, not the system.  I've heard of 
> > > > it, I've googled it, I've seen pictures.  What I HAVE NOT seen is an 
> > > > explanation of how it's done.  How does one determine the size, 
> > > > materials, plants?  The plants must grow, so how do you harvest them, 
> > > > and what do you do with them?  The growth medium must need to be of a 
> > > > certain type and size to prevent clogging, and I imagine that some 
> > > > combinations of "rock" and plants work better than others.  Surely, 
> > > > if it's worth doing, it's worth doing well, but I'd rather not have 
> > > > to invent this thing all by myself, when it has already been done 
> > > > successfully.
> > > > 
> > > > E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
> > > > www.hillcountrynatives.net
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Joan Vibert wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > "Plants purify the water" is a bit over-simplistic. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually its not “over-simplistic” at all.  We’ve had a marsh 
> > > > > (rock-plant-filter) system since 1994 that handles all of our 
> > > > > sewage on our farm.  We were the second system to go in in Kansas 
> > > > > and they used the information collected over several years to write 
> > > > > the regulations for the Kansas Department of Health & Environment.  
> > > > > This required monthly testing for at least two years as I recall.  
> > > > > It was amazing – the water at the end of our marsh (its about 12’ x 
> > > > > 60’) was 99% pure according to the testing lab.  Actually purer 
> > > > > than our drinking water I’m sure.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The same system should be used wherever possible for municipal 
> > > > > sewage treatment – its so simple and I’m sure that’s why it doesn’t 
> > > > > get considered – it just doesn’t cost enough and cuts out lots of 
> > > > > engineers expenses.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joan Vibert
> > > > > Windwalker Farm
> > > > > Ottawa, Kansas
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