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  • From: <pbunch@cox.net>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [Livingontheland] Black Soldier Flys
  • Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:23:53 -0700

I did a bit of googling on these critters in Colombia and it turns out a
couple of the major universities and at least one biotech firm are working
with them. As the biotech is in Bogota at +/- 2600 meters they could be a
really good source of information. Two of the the universities are here in
Medellin.

Has anyone seen data on using this species for human wastes. Some of the
sites I have seen so far hint at it. One mentions the use of a urine
diverting mechanism. I don't know it they were referring to a human or
livestock loop. It seems that one would want to be very careful using the
larvae produce in this manner as part of a human food cycle. Sounds like
there would be a potential for the transmission of bacteria and virus in say
a human-soldier fly-chicken-human loop.

Phil
Piedras Blancas/Medellin
---- CHERYL WESOLOWSKI <mullski1@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Don't know if it legal but it is very effective, use a privy and feed the
> human waste to black soldier flies.
>
>
>
> http://www.esrint.com/pages/bioconversion.html
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:10:50 -0700
> > From: pbunch@cox.net
> > To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] sewage systems
> >
> > What kinds, if any, of problems can develop with odors?
> >
> >
> > ---- Ken Hargesheimer <minifarms2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > The water leaving the system is drinkable. No problem.
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: pbunch@cox.net <pbunch@cox.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] sewage systems
> > > To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
> > > <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 7:34 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > We need to expand our treatment system to accommodate people who will
> > > be visiting our place. My wife is getting ready to rent rooms as part
> > > of a tourism project and and we will need to add capacity for about 6
> > > to 8 people (initially sporadic use but potentially full time). Our
> > > subsoil drains slowly so a traditional drain field would need to be
> > > rather large and importing the gravel would be difficult as there is no
> > > road access. Also as we are located in a watershed reserve with a major
> > > tourism component this is a sensitive issue. .We don't want to pollute
> > > water that is critical to the city and we can't afford to have odor
> > > problems due to both the guests and close proximity of hikers, etc.
> > >
> > > I would be interested in hearing how others have solved these kinds of
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > Medellin/Piedras Blancas
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- Emery Mitchamore <emitch@att.net> wrote:
> > > > The EXPLANATION was over-simplistic, not the system. I've heard of
> > > > it, I've googled it, I've seen pictures. What I HAVE NOT seen is an
> > > > explanation of how it's done. How does one determine the size,
> > > > materials, plants? The plants must grow, so how do you harvest them,
> > > > and what do you do with them? The growth medium must need to be of a
> > > > certain type and size to prevent clogging, and I imagine that some
> > > > combinations of "rock" and plants work better than others. Surely,
> > > > if it's worth doing, it's worth doing well, but I'd rather not have
> > > > to invent this thing all by myself, when it has already been done
> > > > successfully.
> > > >
> > > > E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
> > > > www.hillcountrynatives.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Joan Vibert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Plants purify the water" is a bit over-simplistic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually its not “over-simplistic” at all. We’ve had a marsh
> > > > > (rock-plant-filter) system since 1994 that handles all of our
> > > > > sewage on our farm. We were the second system to go in in Kansas
> > > > > and they used the information collected over several years to write
> > > > > the regulations for the Kansas Department of Health & Environment.
> > > > > This required monthly testing for at least two years as I recall.
> > > > > It was amazing – the water at the end of our marsh (its about 12’ x
> > > > > 60’) was 99% pure according to the testing lab. Actually purer
> > > > > than our drinking water I’m sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > The same system should be used wherever possible for municipal
> > > > > sewage treatment – its so simple and I’m sure that’s why it doesn’t
> > > > > get considered – it just doesn’t cost enough and cuts out lots of
> > > > > engineers expenses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joan Vibert
> > > > > Windwalker Farm
> > > > > Ottawa, Kansas
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