Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[Aliza Vanderlip <songbird97520@yahoo.com>]

Depends on the land Paul - Now you have to remember that I am not a cow fan - I do raw goat/sheep diary - but cows, goats, sheep can utilize land that is difficult to grow food on so it doesnt have to be a one or another sort of thing.  Average is one cow/acre or 5 goats/acre.  goats are going to be able to graze/browse on marginal lands and turn grass/browse - into high quality food.

Blessings,

Aliza
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--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:

From: Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] food for thought?
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 5:59 PM

Good to get different points of view. My own is that most of us do not need any form of milk for the calcium, since the usual bone problems do not respond to extra calcium anyway but do respond to vitamin D.  And the D they add to commercial milk isn't enough to justify the cost IMHO. And apparently unpasteurized milk is largely indigestible. After all, nature makes it for growing heavy calf bones. True there's the African culture living on milk and oxblood, but I'm not going to try it myself. Nor meat only or whale blubber. Humans are omnivorous, but radical changes in diet to different cultures cause problems. I'll admit Weston Price has some good points. I happen to crave certain kinds of cheese. But there is no medical evidence that cows milk is nature's perfect food for adults. Bananas come a lot closer.

I still ask how much food could we produce on the land it takes to support one dairy cow?

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 5/4/2010 at 2:17 PM Aliza Vanderlip wrote:

>This is about pasturized CAFO dairy foods - not pastured raw
>goats/sheeps/cow (though it is generally more difficult for folks to
>digest cow) milk.  The pasteurization/homogenization is what causes most
>of the issues that folks have with dairy products.  I wish folks wouldnt
>generalize about dairy.  Raw dairy from grazing animals has a different
>vitamin/mineral profile then the crap at the store and is used by the body
>differently.  There are cultures that eat mostly dairy for their entire
>diet.  There are cultures that have thrived well on meat only - think
>inuit people on the north slope.  There are many ways to build a healthy
>diet and healthy raw dairy can be one of the ways.
>
>Here is an article from Weston A Price foundation on traditional diets and
>the many varied ways that peoples ate and created healthy strong bodies.
>
>https://www.westonaprice.org/Ancient-Dietary-Wisdom-for-Tomorrow-s-Children.html

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