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  • From: Emery Mitchamore <emitch@att.net>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Permaculture - Farms for the Future
  • Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:05:23 -0600

Yes, A Forest Garden is inappropriate for most arid areas, and that's exactly what Permaculture would say.  On semi-arid grassland, a rangeland, with an emphasis on grass-fed animals, is probably more useful, and both Permaculture and Holistic Management (as well as lots of history) , would support that approach.  As for deserts, we have enough already, a good reason to stop cutting down trees and tilling huge fields, both of which create more desert. If you happen to live in desert or near-desert, your options are limited and difficult, yet, as Paul has shown, much of value can be accomplished.  It's a complex world, and no one method is going to suffice.

On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Tradingpost wrote:


Just suggesting growing a forest garden on a dry, treeless plain is pointless. One drawback to heat holding barrels is they don't pick up any heat to store in cloudy weather.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 1/17/2010 at 4:08 PM Debbie Mcdonald wrote:

Paul, can you expand on the comments you made regarding "forest gardens
that shouldn't be there anyway?? or something like that?
Anyone here have any knowledge of solar powered freezers? and brand and
quality?
Have any of you a solar greehouse? I have a bunch of barrels and I
remembered reading about lining the bottom of a greenhouse with them full
of water to heat it some but? I am having trouble imagining it:)

Re Tommys post, I wonder do you all take this gardening to a spiritual
level as regards the plant relationship with us, etc which is how I
thought Tommy was leaning but? Is not this whole coming scenario a test
that way anyway and not just a survival thing with who can grow the most
food. I am sorry I was not here a year earlier etc etc etc;0


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