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  • From: Dan Conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] We Can't Reform Health Care without Reforming Food
  • Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:52:31 -0600

This debate is misnamed all the time: The government isn't trying to do anything much with the health care in America, but with Health Care FINANCING.

There is no debate about making people healthy. It is only about financing the ridiculous Faux Fountain of Youth.

Just like the automobile: Everyone wants to find a way to replace the gas-powered auto with electricity or hydrogen or some other fuel, but very few are saying that we DON'T NEED CARS (at least most of the time)!

We don't need a health care 'System': We need good food and good doctors as a general rule. We don't need 'less government' or 'more government', but we do need those services which are demanded by what we decide is civilization.

The 'less government' people have made it impossible for government to work (by random 'cost cutting' measures), and the 'more government' people have made it impossible for citizens to do the work (through litigating everything).

Meanwhile, those working IN government are getting paid a lot more money and doing a lot less work (hiring contractors instead to do their thinking for them and getting promotions to 'department managers'), while those outside government can't afford the taxes OR the doctors that should be working for the government(Of the People) by now.

I just got back from a trip to Wash. D.C. and my old military boondoggle stomping grounds, so I apologize for my cynicism.

Everyone is full of crap and Rome is smoking.

Dan C.
Nature Creek Farm

From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: [Livingontheland] We Can't Reform Health Care without
Reforming Food
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We Can't Reform Health Care without Reforming Food
October 28, 2009 05:45 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/we-cant-reform-health-car_b_337615.html

If and when health care reform finally passes, we will have successfully ameliorated
only half of the crisis. The treatment half. The next step has to be focused upon doing
something about the poisoned filth we've collectively nicknamed "food."
Without any real changes in how our food is produced, the health care system will
continue to bloat and fall apart. Not unlike the insides of an average American body.

Corporate agribusiness has invested nearly $1.2 billion (and growing) on
lobbyists -- more money than even the defense lobby. Naturally, much of this
lobbying has been aimed at deregulating how food is processed and
manufactured, as well as how corporate agribusinesses raise and process
livestock. It's an industry that's entangled in everything from Big Tobacco
to human trafficking and illegal immigration.

Most recently, and speaking of poisoned filth, you may have watched as Rick
Berman was eviscerated by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC a few weeks ago. In case you
missed it, Berman's Center for Consumer Freedom is financed by corporate
agribusiness, among others, and tasked with deceiving the public about
everything from high fructose corn syrup to transfat, mercury levels in fish,
obesity issues, food labels, and tobacco laws. CCF is all about confusing the
public by muddying scientific fact and skewing the debate onto ridiculous
tangents to the point where it's difficult to tell the difference between
what's healthy and what's crap. It's Glenn Beck's rodeo clown strategy
applied to food.

The consequence for you and me, of course, is that the food is becoming
increasingly toxic, both in terms of what goes into our bodies, and in terms
of how deregulation and deception is hurting the economy. What good is health
care reform if we're still being fed poison? What good is an economic
recovery if big business is still gaming the system?





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