Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>]

True, Dan. Now events are proving that the original theme of  this list was 
right all along - that the sanest and healthiest way to eat is grow what you 
can from the healthiest soil and try to encourage more local food where we 
live. I catch some of those same political shows, but the mass media misses 
most of what we really need on the individual and local level. Actually it's 
some of the food shows that get into local, sustainable food production. I 
think of the Manic Organic in Canada, and a few others. Very few.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

The more you read and observe about this Politics thing, you got to admit 
that each party is worse than the other.
    Will Rogers

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On 11/7/2009 at 5:52 PM Dan Conine wrote:

>This debate is misnamed all the time: The government isn't trying to do
>anything much with the health care in America, but with Health Care
>FINANCING.
>
>There is no debate about making people healthy. It is only about
>financing the ridiculous Faux Fountain of Youth.
>
>Just like the automobile: Everyone wants to find a way to replace the
>gas-powered auto with electricity or hydrogen or some other fuel, but
>very few are saying that we DON'T NEED CARS (at least most of the time)!
>
>We don't need a health care 'System': We need good food and good doctors
>as a general rule. We don't need 'less government' or 'more government',
>but we do need those services which are demanded by what we decide is
>civilization.
>
>The 'less government' people have made it impossible for government to
>work (by random 'cost cutting' measures), and the 'more government'
>people have made it impossible for citizens to do the work (through
>litigating everything).
>
>Meanwhile, those working IN government are getting paid a lot more money
>and doing a lot less work (hiring contractors instead to do their
>thinking for them and getting promotions to 'department managers'),
>while those outside government can't afford the taxes OR the doctors
>that should be working for the government(Of the People) by now.
>
>I just got back from a trip to Wash. D.C. and my old military boondoggle
>stomping grounds, so I apologize for my cynicism.
>
>Everyone is full of crap and Rome is smoking.
>
>Dan C.
>Nature Creek Farm
>
>> From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
>> Subject: [Livingontheland] We Can't Reform Health Care without
>>      Reforming Food
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>> We Can't Reform Health Care without Reforming Food
>> October 28, 2009 05:45 PM
>>
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/we-cant-reform-health-car_b_337615.html
>>
>> If and when health care reform finally passes, we will have successfully
>ameliorated only half of the crisis. The treatment half. The next step has
>to be focused upon doing something about the poisoned filth we've
>collectively nicknamed "food." Without any real changes in how our food is
>produced, the health care system will continue to bloat and fall apart.
>Not unlike the insides of an average American body.
>>
>> Corporate agribusiness has invested nearly $1.2 billion (and growing) on
>lobbyists -- more money than even the defense lobby. Naturally, much of
>this lobbying has been aimed at deregulating how food is processed and
>manufactured, as well as how corporate agribusinesses raise and process
>livestock. It's an industry that's entangled in everything from Big
>Tobacco to human trafficking and illegal immigration.
>>
>> Most recently, and speaking of poisoned filth, you may have watched as
>Rick Berman was eviscerated by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC a few weeks ago. In
>case you missed it, Berman's Center for Consumer Freedom is financed by
>corporate agribusiness, among others, and tasked with deceiving the public
>about everything from high fructose corn syrup to transfat, mercury levels
>in fish, obesity issues, food labels, and tobacco laws. CCF is all about
>confusing the public by muddying scientific fact and skewing the debate
>onto ridiculous tangents to the point where it's difficult to tell the
>difference between what's healthy and what's crap. It's Glenn Beck's rodeo
>clown strategy applied to food.
>>
>> The consequence for you and me, of course, is that the food is becoming
>increasingly toxic, both in terms of what goes into our bodies, and in
>terms of how deregulation and deception is hurting the economy. What good
>is health care reform if we're still being fed poison? What good is an
>economic recovery if big business is still gaming the system?
>
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