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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Price of Ferilizer/fuel
  • Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:32:07 -0600


I read that the algae process is still trying to just break even energy-wise
with corn-based ethanol, and the ethanol yields lower MPG than gasoline.
Those startups hype the promise of algae in hopes of going public with a
stock offering and then sell out and make a killing. It's been going on for
years but we're just hearing about it now because oil is so high.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 5/30/2008 at 3:34 PM anna Lorrai wrote:

>I don't think that algae is a silver bullet BUT the prices of gas are way
>up and another video from UC said that some of the higher production
>estimates of the cost of biofuel from algae would be $60 a barrel. There
>are other benefits such as using waste water and high nitrogen water from
>agriculture to grow algae.
>
> Bad press creates mindset. You say " Get Big Or Get Out" What's that?
>It's mindset created by money, Mansanto, Oil. The point is if we are
>going to go to sustainable systems our mindset and the mindset of the
>average person has to be focused on , " Small is beautiful" and "
>Sustainable is beautiful"
>
> I think the reason biofuel and fertilizer from algae has not done
>anything in the market is because it's not part of the Big Oil economy.
>Slowly some big oil companies are getting on board and getting in because
>Green is becoming popular. There has also been a lot more research
>currently. Algae's that are better oil producers are being developed as
>well as systems for making biofuels I'm keeping my mind open with hope.
>Anna
>
>Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:
>
>I looked at the video. Yet the principles of algae producing fuel have
>been known for decades, and it's been researched long before recent "bad
>press" about biofuels. It just hasn't turned out to be practical
>financially. If it had the potential to be the silver bullet, investors
>would be trampling each other to get into it. Cyanobacteria may someday
>prove more practical, but not yet. Always, the ultimate answer is powering
>down this society.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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>On 5/30/2008 at 12:37 PM anna Lorrai wrote:
>
>>There is a lot of bad press about biofuels due to the corn prices. This
>>recent release from the University of Texas shows how algae is such a
>>wonderful alternative. They can produce fertilzer and fuel for us on
>>waste lands and waste. Because of the bad publicity over the fuel or food
>>issue these start up businesses for algae production are having a rough
>>time getting funding, that's why I'm trying to get the word out about this
>>wonderful oil producing cyanobacteria (?)
>> http://www.utexas.edu/oncampus/2008/05/16/fueling-the-future/
>>
>> great video, hope I got the url right. Anna
>>
>>






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