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  • From: anna Lorrai <cactusandquail@yahoo.com>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Price of Ferilizer/fuel
  • Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:27:13 -0700 (PDT)

Most of the algae start ups are privately owned.  Sorry to hear that you are so disenchanted with the whole concept.  Lot's of things take years to get rolling.  Anna

Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:

I read that the algae process is still trying to just break even energy-wise with corn-based ethanol, and the ethanol yields lower MPG than gasoline. Those startups hype the promise of algae in hopes of going public with a stock offering and then sell out and make a killing. It's been going on for years but we're just hearing about it now because oil is so high.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 5/30/2008 at 3:34 PM anna Lorrai wrote:

>I don't think that algae is a silver bullet BUT the prices of gas are way
>up and another video from UC said that some of the higher production
>estimates of the cost of biofuel from algae would be $60 a barrel. There
>are other benefits such as using waste water and high nitrogen water from
>agriculture to grow algae.
>
> Bad press creates mindset. You say " Get Big Or Get Out" What's that?
>It's mindset created by money, Mansanto, Oil. The point is if we are
>going to go to sustainable systems our mindset and the mindset of the
>average person has to be focused on , " Small is beautiful" and "
>Sustainable is beautiful"
>
> I think the reason biofuel and fertilizer from algae has not done
>anything in the market is because it's not part of the Big Oil economy.
>Slowly some big oil companies are getting on board and getting in because
>Green is becoming popular. There has also been a lot more research
>currently. Algae's that are better oil producers are being developed as
>well as systems for making biofuels I'm keeping my mind open with hope.
>Anna
>
>Tradingpost wrote:
>
>I looked at the video. Yet the principles of algae producing fuel have
>been known for decades, and it's been researched long before recent "bad
>press" about biofuels. It just hasn't turned out to be practical
>financially. If it had the potential to be the silver bullet, investors
>would be trampling each other to get into it. Cyanobacteria may someday
>prove more practical, but not yet. Always, the ultimate answer is powering
>down this society.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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>On 5/30/2008 at 12:37 PM anna Lorrai wrote:
>
>>There is a lot of bad press about biofuels due to the corn prices. This
>>recent release from the University of Texas shows how algae is such a
>>wonderful alternative. They can produce fertilzer and fuel for us on
>>waste lands and waste. Because of the bad publicity over the fuel or food
>>issue these start up businesses for algae production are having a rough
>>time getting funding, that's why I'm trying to get the word out about this
>>wonderful oil producing cyanobacteria (?)
>> http://www.utexas.edu/oncampus/2008/05/16/fueling-the-future/
>>
>> great video, hope I got the url right. Anna
>>
>>


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