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- From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
- To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING
- Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:35:43 -0700
>In fact, there aren't many places with a farmers market because *all*
>the little stores sell produce that came from local farmers.
Here's a good listing of farmers markets
http://www.localharvest.org/
or zoom in on farmers markets, 3484 listings
http://www.localharvest.org/search.jsp?&ty=1&nm=
paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 12/15/2007 at 8:01 PM Liz wrote:
>At 07:00 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
>
>>You're right, Liz. But that raises the next question: how sustainable is
>>going back to the bank every year to keep farming in the first place?
>>Spending your life farming to repay debt (with interest) is a clever
>modern
>>invention, and incidentally gives the financial elite absolute control
>over
>>your food. Thoughts?
>
>Couldn't agree with you more. That's just one of the major
>shortcomings of modern agriculture. But it's what many farmers are
>accustomed to doing. Combine a fear of change with the marketing
>tactics of Monsanto and their ilk, and it's hard to overcome.
>
>I personally think that market gardening is the only really viable
>alternative to agribusiness, or even the small to medium family farm.
>It bypasses banks, fertilizer and pesticide manufacturers, and to
>some extent even the commercial seed producers, if you can save some
>of your own seed. It's much more flexible than monoculture in its
>ability to respond to seasonal weather changes. As you've pointed
>out, it allows the grower to have a personal relationship with the
>consumer. It encourages the production of local favorites best suited
>to the area, since they aren't going to be shipped across the
>country. And it encourages community relationships too, I think. The
>small rural stores that I inspect almost always have some of "Mrs.
>Williams' cabbages" or "John White's sweet potatoes" for sale during
>harvest season. Everyone knows who grows the best tomatoes or the
>best peppers or cucumbers, and where to buy them.
>
>In fact, there aren't many places with a farmers market because *all*
>the little stores sell produce that came from local farmers. The
>established farmers' markets in some of the larger towns are seen as
>places where the rich folk go, unfortunately. I expect that will
>change as supermarket food becomes more expensive. But I fear that
>what I call the pasta-and-pastry diet will continue to prevail
>wherever people's food budgets are being squeezed. It can be hard to
>justify buying fresh produce even when you know better, if you can
>take home twice as many bags of sugared cereal and boxed pasta mixes
>for the same amount of money. That's the fundamental problem--people
>have been brainwashed to think that stuff is food.
>
>Liz in SW VA
>http://life-as-a-spectator-sport.com
>
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Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS
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Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS,
Phil Bunch, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, TradingPostPaul, 12/15/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS,
Ken Hargesheimer, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Dieter Brand, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Marty Kraft, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TOHELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Phil Bunch, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TOHELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Marty Kraft, 12/16/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Liz, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, TradingPostPaul, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Liz, 12/16/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING, TradingPostPaul, 12/16/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING, Liz, 12/16/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING, TradingPostPaul, 12/16/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] look up a plant, Ken Hargesheimer, 12/16/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS,
Phil Bunch, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, TradingPostPaul, 12/15/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Ken Hargesheimer, 12/16/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELPWARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Liz, 12/16/2007
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Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELP WARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS,
TradingPostPaul, 12/22/2007
- Re: [Livingontheland] NO-TILL FARMING OFFERS A QUICK FIX TO HELP WARD OFF HOST OF GLOBAL PROBLEMS, Ken Hargesheimer, 12/22/2007
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