Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[su do <speakingbeareturns@yahoo.com>]

We need to go beyond biofuels from crops and burning
wastes.  We need to focus on solar, wind, and hydro.
IMO
--- Pego Rice <firekeeper38@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am very interested in this discussion and since it
> pertains, do you have to take it off list?
> 
> I would add points that are randomly pro and con but
> considering the situation I think each point would
> be
> interesting and perhaps useful.
> 
> A) The tax cost needs to be compared to the tax cost
> of all the other solutions, otherwise it is a
> nonsequiture.  The Tax cost of each gallon of
> petroleum used on the road was $12 per gallon prior
> to
> the war (according to National Geographic)  So a tax
> cost would have to be sizable to  make it
> impracticable.
> 
> B) The cost of production and its efficiency are
> very
> likely to go sharply down as more effective source
> crops go up than the over-stated corn and beet
> crops. 
> Water Hyacinth and Duckweed both can be grown with
> increasing efficiency to create Methane and even
> Mesquite is being looked at
>
http://www.seco.cpa.state.tx.us/re_biomass_projects.htm
> 
> C) LEEDS and ZED standards for communities must be
> adopted. Politicians sold our country's future and
> interests to Petroleum, Automotive and other mega
> lobby concerns and we have to stop it.  We need to
> reconfigure our agricultural prerogatives to
> long-term
> sustainability and shrink the footprint of our
> national lifestyle.  We need to tear up some of
> these
> roads to become commuter/cargo train routes and
> community mass transit, not pave over more and more
> farmland to service auto motives and sprawl we
> cannot
> sustain.
> 
> D) Metal shortages are likely to stop or stymie
> several of our current promising technologies.  The
> metals that make our solar cells work, for instance.
> 
> If we want to do something besides Bio-fuels that
> needs looking at.
> 
> 
> Yours, Pego
> 
> Mark Nagel said:
> "Just signed myself up to be on a discussion panel
> on
> biofuels. Obviously I'm on the "con" side. ....
> 
> Paul said: 
> 1. ethanol is not the pollution free fuel 
> 2. ethanol produces little energy above manufacture
> 3. cropland is being diverted from food 
> 4. driving up food prices and fertilizer prices
> 5. ethanol requires vast amounts of tax money 
> 
> 
> Doug added:
> 6. Ethanol requires water, top soil and natural gas
> to
> grow. Do we really want to use up the last.. to keep
> our happy motoring love affair with the automobile
> going? Or more sustainable solutions ... Biofuels
> could be very useful on a small, local scale, ..But,
> trying to keep America's gargantuan auto fleet
> running
> on biofuels is a disaster of epic proportions, in my
> opinion.
> 
> 
> 
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