Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>]

Sustainability Ethic? These have meaning for me and for living on the land.

   "A thing is right only when it tends to preserve the integrity,
stability and beauty of the community; and the community includes the soil,
water, fauna and flora, as well as the people."
   "We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When
we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with
love and respect."
- Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac, 1949


   "We still think in terms of conquest. We still haven't become mature
enough to think of ourselves as only a tiny part of a vast and incredible
universe. Man's attitude toward nature is today critically important simply
because we have now acquired a fateful power to alter and destroy nature.
But man is a part of nature and his war against nature is inevitably a war
against himself… Now, I truly believe that we in this generation must
come to terms with nature, and I think we're challenged as mankind has
never been challenged before to prove our maturity and our mastery, not of
nature, but of ourselves."
- Rachel Carson, naturalist and author

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 5/9/2007 at 8:07 AM Marty Kraft wrote:

>Maybe. But it would be difficult to contemplate a sustainability
>ethic without considering the renaissance of the 1960s. It threw out
>almost every ruel to try to establish better ones. A lot of babies
>got thrown out with the bath and the staying power was weak, but...
>
>It seems like we need to evolve a sustainability ethic that people
>can agree to in their hearts. I wonder if we on this list could come
>to some guidelines that feel good to live by. The fewer and simpler
>the better.
>
>Toward that I would put forth the idea that everything is
>interconnected or that the universe is one whole thing. Any action
>done to any part effects everything else. The second idea is to do no
>harm, or as little as possible. Maybe this one should be stated in
>the positive that we try to love every thing and everyone, self
>included. The third is to keep your lights turned on especially
>during action so you can see the effects of your actions.
>
>Marty
>On May 7, 2007, at 11:05 PM, TradingPostPaul wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh boy, now we've got way off topic and I'm in the middle of it
>> without
>> realizing.  Back to Living On The Land?
>>
>> How bout them chickens?
>>
>> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>> On 5/7/2007 at 9:48 PM TradingPostPaul wrote:
>>
>>> Actually what we call "hippies" were a very tiny minority in their
>>> heyday.
>>> In contrast, the overwhelming majority of youngsters did not drop
>>> out,
>> they
>>> stayed in school, closed their minds, joined corporations or the
>>> military,
>>> and *they* were the ones who, as you put it, "drove the economy
>>> into the
>>> ground". The hippies did not turn into blithering idiots. I know.
>>> When I
>>> was at Texas A&M I saw the blithering idiots marching around, waiting
>> their
>>> turn to join the 50,000 sacrificed in The Nam.
>>>
>>> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>>> On 5/7/2007 at 8:34 PM Derek Chamberlain wrote:
>>>
>>>> Respectfully, the hippies got just about everything
>>>> wrong. They are the reason for many ills of society.
>>>> They screwed their brains out, and then gave up on
>>>> their own dream, turned int he tie-dye for suits, and
>>>> drove the economy into the ground. Do a little more
>>>> research on the "baby boomers" aka "hippies."
>>>>
>>>> Excellent article here:
>>>> http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-05-02/news/boomtastrophe/
>>>>
>>>> Even better, try to get a copy @ the library. Truly
>>>> scary statistics.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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