Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[Uriel <uriel@nasalam.org>]

I live on the Ozark Plateau, about 20 miles from Springfield MO.
Uriel

art corbit wrote:
> Well insolated above ground structures can be used but they contain a lot
> less moisture than an in-ground root cellar. If you air dry your potatoes
> before you put them in the old refrigerators and freezers they should keep
> pretty well as long as they are not opened very much in real cold weather.
>
> We have a big problem down here in the Arkansas River valley with water
> rising in root cellars. Most cellars and storm shelters here have steel
> linings to keep the water out. What part of the Ozarks do you live in?
>
> Art
>
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> From: "Uriel" <uriel@nasalam.org>
> To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
> <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] root cellars
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> > Where I grew up in SW Washington the water table was too high for
> > cellars.  Instead, we had a room back in the wood shed that had walls
> > about a food thick and filled with sawdust.  Even the door was filled
> > with sawdust.  It worked quite well and kept various kinds of produce
> > cool in the summer and protected in the winter.  My mother would put
> > down surplus summertime eggs in water glass (sodium silicate) to keep
> > through the winter.  Tomato plants would be pulled whole just before the
> > first frost and hung upside down.  The tomatoes would continue to ripen
> > through the fall and early winter.  Where I  now live in the Ozarks the
> > ground is solid rock in places so I'm experimenting with a different
> > kind of 'root cellar' -- old refrigerators and freezers filled with
> > straw to hold potatoes, carrots, etc.  I'm curious to see how it works.
> >
> > Uriel / SW Missouri
> >
> >
> >     
> > > From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
> > > To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:08 PM
> > > Subject: [Livingontheland] root cellars / Looking for advice on a few
> > >       
> topics
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> > > "Root cellars are nature's way of storing fruits and vegetables. And
> > >       
> they
>   
> > > can be excellent storage areas for other things as well. A hundred years
> > > ago root cellars were one of the few ways they had of keeping things
> > >       
> cool.
>   
> > > People not only put potatoes and carrots in their root cellars, but
> > >       
> their
>   
> > > preserved meat, milk and cream, fruits and vegetables - literally
> > >       
> anything
>   
> > > they needed to keep cool. Even though root cellars didn't get nearly as
> > > cold as a refrigerator during summer months, root cellars generally were
> > > and are 30 to 40 degrees F cooler than daytime summer temperatures."
> > >
> > > complete article at http://waltonfeed.com/old/cellars.html
> > >
> > > Root Cellar Basics complete page at
> > > http://waltonfeed.com/old/cellar4.html
> > > # Temperature is your most important interest
> > > # Your second most important consideration is humidity
> > > # Air circulation
> > > # How big of a cellar should you build?
> > > # Shelves
> > > # What kind of root cellar is right for you?
> > > # Construction methods
> > > # Using your root cellar
> > > # Vegetables and their optimum storage conditions
> > >
> > >
> > > paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> > >
> > > Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
> > > --Henry David Thoreau
> > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > >
> > > On 7/21/2006 at 2:04 PM Dianne Palmer-Quay wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >       
> > > > Finally, does anyone know anything about root cellar type storage in
> > > >         
> the
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> > > > South?  My crawl space is about 74 degrees now (outside highs are the
> > > >
> > > >         
> > > upper
> > >
> > >       
> > > > 90's) which is where I am storing the surplus potatoes and winter
> > > >         
> squash
>   
> > > >from this year's garden.  But that temperature is too warm (according
> > >       
> to
>   
> > > > the books).  Any ideas how I could create a cooler space without a
> > > > refrigeration device?
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