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- From: "Don Rua" <rua AT mindspring.com>
- To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee
- Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:03:19 -0400
Thanks to both David and Lee for putting those
tables together. It is definitely interesting to note, but I would give a word
of caution to non-Bush supporters, or Kerry-backers:
-- The coalition numbers are poor when contrasted
to our recent experience and knowledge of the Afghan and Iraq 1 wars. Note that
a Bush was running the store for those as well, so it's a weak argument to think
that Bush is oblivious to the process or value.
-- But the real issue in the numbers is not what
the totals are, but whether Kerry would have bigger numbers in Bush's stead. Do
not underestimate the Republican's fear of this scenario: Let's say Kerry was in
Bush's shoes, and it is time to back up the umpteenth deadline from the UN
regarding Saddam. Kerry starts doing his world tour to build a coalition, and
he's told basically the same thing by France, Germany, Russia, China, etc.,
namely: "We don't want any part of this war. Wait for a UN mandate, don't
go."
So, does Kerry magically
whip together a huge coalition when Bush couldn't? Does he get
numbers that are double those in David's table? NO. Instead, Kerry doesn't go.
He lets the global community set the timetable of our national security. Maybe
he sends a few scud missles as a symbolic "I'm tough!" move like Clinton did
each time Al Queada marched along their path against us with the Cole,
embassies, etc.
I think that is the real
question. We will never know if someone else could have put together a better
coalition, but the real fear in some voters minds is that if the UN doesn't
decide we should do it, we don't. That Kerry would never have the nerve to do
what our leaders thought was necessary, unless the global community gave him
'permission', putting all our defense on the character and talent of their
leaders, not ours. That Kerry brings us to the day dreaded for so long, where
the US does what it is told, by delegates that we have no opportunity to elect.
We cease to follow our own guidance. We cease to look at circumstances, judge
for ourselves, and act.
Don
PS- Ques. for Kerry fans: Has he ever built an
across-the-spectrum coalition of Senators, much less heads of
state, for any worthwhile initiative? Maybe it doesn't apply, but just
curious. I never saw his name much before the recent
election.
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Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions
, (continued)
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, Jim Allman, 10/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, James Dasher, 10/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, Lee Haslup, 10/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, Michael Czeiszperger, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, Lee Haslup, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, Sil Greene, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, James Dasher, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, Lee Haslup, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, James Dasher, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] immediate reactions, James Dasher, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Don Rua, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Michael Czeiszperger, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, James Dasher, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Evan Zimmerman, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, James Dasher, 10/04/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Evan Zimmerman, 10/04/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Michael Czeiszperger, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, James Dasher, 10/04/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, David Minton, 10/03/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Don Rua, 10/05/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] The tables of David and Lee, Ian Meyer, 10/05/2004
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