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  • From: "Jean-Paul Louis" <louijp AT nc.rr.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Spam retaliation or not
  • Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:06:33 -0400

There is a non-violent way to retaliate. Forward a list of all the domains
of the spammers
to SpamCop.

i.e.., if the spammer address is cool AT cool.Coolspecnet.com then report
Coolspecnet.com

That should work.

Jean-Paul Louis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <jlguallar AT maduixa.net>
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Spam retaliation or not


> On Thursday 24 April 2003 02:06 pm, Brian wrote:
> > I agree that turning the other cheek may be what is necessary. Gandhi
> > believed this literally and just for the reasons you mentioned bellow.
> > Sometimes it does take an act of submission and humility to show others
how
> > violent and arguably wrong something is. Funny how our internal "ethics"
> > kick in when we see the direct results of our personal act of violence.
> > Suffering.
>
> Gandhi's non-violence strategy worked because "the other side" was an
> understanding society, with moral and ethic values. Ghandi's non-violence
> system doesn't work for the worked for Tibet against the Chinese. And it
> didn't work[*] for SouthAfrica against the Apartheid.
>
> [*] Non-violence alone didn't work
>
> Spammers, have no moral, no ethic and no remorse. So "non-violence"
> (ler the mailboxes fill up) would not work with them.
>
> > I am not a luddite. Though I do believe that we have to work extra hard
> > using written communication to keep it clear. You know how hard that
> > sarcasms can be in e-mail.
> > <sarcasm>
> > Whoa stay off the road! Someone can't drive a stick shift. Whoa!
> > </sarcasm>
>
> I drive a stick shift. Stay off the road! :)
>
> > So I guess the very fact that we are only communicating with the written
> > word is the reason spam is so powerful. We have no easy un-ignorable way
to
> > make spammers feel empathy. Thus trigger an ethical response. Stopping
> > spam.
>
> So non-violence (letting mailboxes fill up) will not work.
>
> Action generates reaction, be it "non-violence" or some other kind. Spam
> generates anti-spam grass-roots movements, laws and lone rangers doing web
> defacement (as happened to the Emailers of America (spammers association)
> webpage.
>
>
> Salut,
> Josep
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