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In a message dated 10/22/2009 12:32:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mmcharry AT gmail.com writes:

On Sun,  Oct 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM,  <DSanner106 AT aol.com> wrote:
>  exactly. this is the same sort of weather changes during the normal 30  
year
>  climate swings we have recorded going back eons. I just  don't see the
> whole  human caused global warming in  this.

Uh, what about the loss of Arctic ice? When was the last time  that the
Northwest Passage was navigable?
The fact that the melting ice has released several trapped ships from the  
late 1800- early 1900' s tells me it was not very long ago at all. We also 
know  sea levels are more than 2 feet lower than measurements taken in 1841 
on the  Isle of wight, that markings from 1841 are still in place and 
obvious. 



And then there's all that ice dropping into the sea in  Antarctica.
 
uhh, it's not. Sorry, but the temps are growing colder, both air and water  
in Antarctica, the overall ice shelf is growing with the exception of one 
tiny  berg on the northern tip. (wilkens) All this ice sheet shrink data was 
ruled  false by the British scientific community. It was one of nine points 
outlined as  patently false in Gore's movie and lead to a required label as 
such before  showing the film in Great Britain. It could not be shown as a 
documentary, but  as fiction, with the 9 points specifically listed in a 
warning before the  showing. 
 
_http://www.ecoworld.com/climate/the-real-facts-on-increasing-antarctic-ice.
html_ 
(http://www.ecoworld.com/climate/the-real-facts-on-increasing-antarctic-ice.html)
 



That's not part of any normal 30 year cycle. Neither is the  increased
concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Actually, the CO2 levels have been much higher many times, and caused by  
nature, not man, but more importantly, Scientific American climate expert 
David  Fogarty has written that new studies are showing that CO2 is not 
nearly 
the big  culprit for global warming it has been set up as. the CO2 levels 
varied widely  long before man was on the planet, and are not necessarily the 
cause, but maybe  a byproduct of the conditions causing global warming. He 
cited solar cycles and  many other things that are now being considered.
 
Drew



Marie
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