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Original birth certificates exist and the only reason Hawaii wont show  
Obama's 
is that he has asked them not to, and will not give permission. A very  
simple way 
to clear this up. Although the state no longer issues the long form birth  
cert. they did
issue them at the time of his birth, and that is what we should be seeing a 
 copy of, not
the short form with 2001 legaleze attached that is being shown as a copy of 
 his original
That is the root of the suspicion. Unless he was born after 2001, his copy  
would be a 
long form and be signed by the officials of the time rather than current  
officials. I do think
what is being shown is not a forgery, as some argue, it is signed by the  
current state 
official. I don't necessarily think an original doc. does not exist, I am  
just very curious about
what it must show that the lawyers won't let us see. 
 
Drew
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2009 9:57:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com writes:

I guess  I'm still confused about this. I've never seen an "original" birth 
 
certificate. My state doesn't issue them, and apparently, neither does  
Hawaii. In fact, the website for that Hawaiian Homestead program states  
that 
Hawaii no longer issues 'long form' birth certificates. After my  children 
were born, PA sent me official, legal, birth certificates, and  they look 
just like Obama's. They show the county and state of birth, and  are signed 
by a state official, not a hospital.

I couldn't produce  a 'long form' birth certificate either, because my 
state 
doesn't issue  them. There's no option to get any other kind of birth 
certificate in  Pennsylvania other than what I have; what they issue meets 
the  requirements of the State Department to prove citizenship (I got a  
passport with it).I think many people are talking at cross-purposes as to  
what is a 'real' birth certificate. I think every state is different as to  
what they issue; maybe that's why people can't agree on what a 'real'  
birth 
certificate looks like.

Lynn Wigglesworth
Tioga Co.  PA
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