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["Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>]

I was talking about religions in general, "different" religions 
specifically.  I don't worry about religions that don't do the celebrating.

However, there's where part of the problem is.  You aren't "denying" them 
anything.  Those religions simply aren't participating in what has become 
one big industry.  Yes, families "can" celebrate but "most" don't.  Folks on 
this list, in general, would be the exceptions.

The whole mindset that not doing birthdays or Christmas, which isn't even 
really Christian to begin with, is somehow "denying" kids is part of the 
whole consummerism thing that has been taught and pushed in the U.S. to the 
breaking point.

And, I don't judge these religions/cults based on not doing birthdays or 
other celebrations.  I base it on the hair suit aspect.  I can see the 
father and husbands concerns over that "church."

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marie McHarry" <mmcharry AT gmail.com>


That's a bit of an overgeneralization. It isn't child abuse at all to
deny the children celebrations unless they were used to them
(especially compared to beating babies and children with rods!), bu
tit doesn't have to be consumerism. It's still nice to have family
celebrations. Even today, families can celebrate without buying much
stuff. A birthday cake doesn't have to be expensive.

Marie
> The whole "hair shirt" routines and selling paddles and "rods" 
> specifically
> made in special sizes to fit the age of the child beginning at 3 months is
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