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  • From: rayzentz AT aim.com
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] So what do we do?
  • Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:15:37 -0500

Thanks, Lynda

What is your source for the numbers

Ray, being a bit lazy, not wanting to look for myself...


-----Original Message-----
From: Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Homestead] So what do we do?



The amount of mercury in a CFL is minimal at best. The amount of mercury
coming from the coal fired electric generating plant accounts for over 40%
of the mercury that gets into the air worldwide. And the U.S. alone
produces 104 metric tons of mercury emissions each year with the vast
majority of that coming from coal-fired electric plants.

That coal fired plant produces 13.6 milligrams of mercury to make the
incadescent bulb light up over 8,000 hours of use. (well, if you can get
one to last that long but we'll go with that so we can compare it to totals
for the CRLs which routinely last 8,000 hours <g>)

Now the "old" CFLs had about 3 milligrams of mercury in them. The new
generation have, on average, less than 2 milligrams with some having as
little as 1.4 milligrams.

The CFL's mercury that "might" end up in landfill (if you are one of the
folks who doesn't have a recycling place for your's), will be approx. .6 mg.
Add to that the 1.2 mg that it will take to light the CRL for those 8,000
hours, and you have a net savings of 11.6 mg of mercury.

Lynda

----- Original Message -----
From: <rayzentz AT aim.com>

> Hi, Gene,
>
> Just curious. What do we do with all of the mercury toxins in all of these
> flourescent light bulbs people are getting. And mind you, I have replaced
> almost all of the incandescent bulbs in my house with these, because they
> last longer, and are cheaper to run. I bought my first one when I was
> living in Colorado (which is when I first joined this list, by the way).?
> It's been 8 years now. This year, I finally had to replace one (actually,
> a few). I have been lugging them around with me for many years now, as we
> have moved from place to place. I figure I am ahead money wise.
>
> However, aside from power use, the incandescent bulbs are less harmful to
> the environment. How do Greens reconcile this, without using sophistry. Or
> do we just acknowledge the inherent hypocrisy.
>
> Ray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene GeRue <genegerue@ruralize.
com>
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:06 am
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] So what do we do?
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Marie McHarry wrote:
>
>> Mother Jones had this article on the coming changes in weather:
>> http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2008/11/diet-warm-planet
>> . . . . I think we can probably quit worrying about terrorism, etc.
>> When the
>> ecosystem shafts us, we're in deep doodoo. Have any of you given this
>> consideration? In practical terms, I mean.
>
> Want to rate worries? Seems to me the bigger issue is falling oxygen
> levels. Do you like to breathe?
>
> I've looked for maps to instruct readers on projected climate change.
> Not much found that is very useful except in general terms: in drought
> areas there will be more droughts; in rainy areas there will be more
> rain; in violent wind areas, more of that. As for rising temperatures
> I am all for it; I would love to grow citrus at Heartwood.
>
> Reduced individual energy usage will come due to the pain of rising
> prices but increasing population may negate that gain. As with many
> issues, there are viable community responses. My electric co-op has
> the right idea. We get our electricity through a consortium of
> utilities that own coal-fired generating facilities. Last year we had
> a light bulb swap: for every incandescent bulb turned in, members
> received a new CFL unit. The board found that reduced load means lower
> overhead today and less cost in the future by eliminating the need for
> new generator capacity. It's a win-win plan that means less coal will
> be burned. The calculations to sell members on the plan may be found at:
> http://www.serviceconcepts.coop/coopcustom/cflpaybackhowell-oregon.htm
>
> Besides the present economic focus, most Americans are too conditioned
> by consumptive lifestyles and day-to-day issues to take global warming
> seriously. Most of us do what makes us feel good, as with recycling
> and reusing and wearing stuff out. Lifestyle change will be resisted.

> We homesteaders live sensibly but will always be a tiny minority.
>
> Expect change. Be prepared. Become ever more independent.
>
> Gene GeRue
> www.RUR
> ALIZE.com
>
>
>
>
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