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  • From: william Eggers <wce1482 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Thought this list would appreciate this!
  • Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:30:12 -0800 (PST)

It sounds like this is saying that we as a country are in serious trouble and
it may be the end of this country as we knew it growing up.  Now, what to do?

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Thought this list would appreciate this!
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 10:17 AM

Thanks Jeanne: Ayn Rand had the below to say about society, money, laws,
etc.;
see how much it appears that we may be headed in her wrong direction :

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"Rise of the double standard" foretold in Atlas Shrugged

If you have never read Atlas Shrugged (1957) by Ayn Rand, you should. In one
passage, a stereotypically "liberal" New York journalist named Bertram
Scudder was overheard by South American copper magnate Francisco d’Aconia
stating to a girl during a social event, "Don’t let him disturb you. You
know, money is the root of all evil – and he’s the typical product of
money."

Rand gave d’Aconia some very excellent lines here to describe
"money." Aside from being, at least from an "individualist"
point of view, a concise and brilliant overview of what money, people, good
and
evil really are, Rand used d’Aconia to foreshadow exactly what is happening
today. Ironically, one of Rand’s philosophical devotees was Alan
Greenspan—the man who set in motion the exact circumstances described below.

"...Then you will see the rise of the double standard—the men who live
by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their
looted money—the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society,
these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against
them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law—men
who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims—then money becomes its
creators’ avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once
they’ve passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for
other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to
the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force
is
the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society
vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.

"Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the
barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by
consent, but by compulsion—when you see that in order to produce, you need to
obtain permission from men who produce nothing—when you see that money is
flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors—when you see that men
get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you
against them, but protect them against you—when you see corruption being
rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice—you may know that your society
is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and
it
does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as
half-property, half-loot.

"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for
money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize
gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all
objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary
setter of values."


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--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Jeanne Driese <jeanne13 AT earthlink.net> wrote:


Sent to me by a friend...the answer is so obvious, but yet we as a country
just can't seem to "get it"Maybe I should send it to our
politicions?? Unfortunatley I don't think they would get it. :(((

> Jeanne
> tnhillwoman
> North East TN zone 6
> A Modern Parable.




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Our season opened a week and a half ago, with my management unit
insisting on antlered deer only the first five days. I didn't buy a doe
tag anyway so no problem there, except the buck must have a minimum of
three points on at least one antler. I passed up a legal one opening day
and am beginning to regret not wanting my season to end so quickly. He
used to be an eight-point but had one antler broken off to about three
inches high; I'd take him now. On Tuesday I shot at a six-point and
don't know how I missed. Wednesday I saw a four-point and let him pass.
Other than them I've counted over fifty deer. It's pouring rain right
now and I am completely soaked to the skin. The chimney needs cleaning
so we let the fire go out this morning and it is cold in here. Not as
cold as sitting in the woods when the temperature is twenty-two but cold. :)

Bev, I'd love to compare journal notes. A gray squirrel almost ran up my
leg this morning. A grouse in full ruff strutted across my path the
other day. I almost dropped my rifle and chased a small flock of turkey
poults they were so close. :)

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And by your words you will be condemned bartermn AT epix.net





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