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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] Cool food storage
- Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:33:16 -0800 (PST)
Is there any specific reason to not plastic?
--- On Tue, 12/9/08, Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Homestead] Cool food storage
To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 1:49 PM
On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Leslie wrote:
> Gene,
>
> For storing potatos / carrots in the soil, does the soil have to
> remain above freezing?
Yes. That's what the mulch does, keep the soil from freezing. When you
want potatoes, you pull back mulch and lift the spuds. In good soil
you can do this with no tool save your hands.
An alternative way is to dig a hole and bury a small barrel or wood
box (not plastic), fill with potatoes, top with lots of organic
material: mulch, straw, grass and leaf collection from fall mowing. Do
not clean the potatoes. Lift them, leave them on the ground until the
clinging dirt and skins have dried a bit, then store. Handle as gently
as possible to avoid bruising. Some people make layers of spuds and
straw.
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Subject: Re: [Homestead] Melons (was Anti-Doctor)
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I LOVE cloth diapers.... thanks for reminding me. One of those things that I
had forgotten to purchase on my stock up on supplies list....
--- On Tue, 12/9/08, Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com> wrote:
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Subject: Melons (was Anti-Doctor)
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Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:00 PM
Your idea about the old T-shirts (excellent) brings to mind a recent
discussion about the sadness of the demise of cloth diapers - useful for
everything! Lasted for years! Can be used for everything from car / truck
washes to cheesecloth. I even keep a couple of them in the drawer with
rolling pin, etc. and safety-pin them around my pastry board - dusted with
flour - they make it possible to pick up a thinly-rolled pie crust without
cracking.
Sandy
Mid-Mojave
In a message dated 12/9/2008 10:31:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cayadopi AT yahoo.com writes:
This is a big watermelon area. They have some kind of underground watering
system in the field closest to me. Not sure about the other fields, must I
sure don't see the flood system in the melon fields, so they must do
something similar.
I hadn't read that other melons have to be tied up.... haven't gotten that
far in my how to reading yet... LOL. I did decide that the melon patch is in
the sunniest location. Not much natural shade here though. Panty hose seems
reasonable to me! or even old t-shirts cut up?
--- On Tue, 12/9/08, Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com> wrote:
From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-Doctor
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Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 1:22 PM
Well, maybe I can be of some little help.
My best friend, 3.3 miles away - also on 5 acres of my same sort of
sand-and-stuff - keeps a garden where she's had, every year, good results
with
tomatoes, and peppers, and some little luck with melons. This last year was
her
first attempt at the melons, but they seemed to be 'under-developed'
(don't know
how else to describe it). Kinda like Dolly Parton on a slow day.
She had the tomatoes and peppers on a slow-drip kind of arrangement, and
moved the hose every day - and that worked out fine - but we thought perhaps
the
melons (lying on the ground) were getting drowned.
She didn't want to tie them up to the chain link fence enclosure, for fear
of squeezing the stems too tight, so I suggested (no laughing allowed) that
she
buy a couple of the little containers of 25-cent anklet pantyhose from the
local Wallyworld, and truss them up to the fence. I think this would have
worked, but we got to them too late.
All this train of thought reminds me of James' posts a year or so ago where
he sent such lovely photos of his hops vines...maybe you can look them up in
the archives. I don't know whatever I'd use them for, but they sure
were
purty!
I also think, because of the way the garden enclosure is situated, that
where she had the melons planted needed more direct sun...in the afternoon.
As
it
was, there was a huge stand of oleanders blocking the light from noon on. I
think this would have made all the difference.
She lost her husband a couple of years ago - I've been trying to keep her
busy with paying attention to the property that he and she built together -
35
years ago - there are probably 25 (or so) lovely pine trees that were planted
every year after Christmas - they were heavy into the 'green' thing.
Spent
their honeymoon traveling the Alcan Highway in one of the first of the
Volkswagon busses.
I think we are Zone 9a.
Sandy
Mid-Mojave
In a message dated 12/9/2008 9:50:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cayadopi AT yahoo.com writes:
Thanks, I was hoping you were doing some desert condition gardening. I can
read all the desert gardening manuals out there, but there is nothing like
hearing it from someone who is doing it. My immediate neighbor east of me,
gardens, but not at the homestead level. There is a neighbor about 2 miles
north who has a much more substanital garden and now that I see her plants
are
all pulled up, it's time to go pay a visit and find out what she has had
success with here. I really would like peas...... but not sure I'll have
the
right growing season, even if I try for a late fall harvest.
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From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Anti-Doctor
To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com
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Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 12:28 PM
Oh, how I wish I could be of some help to you!
Unfortunately, I am merely a semi-professional lurker on this awesome list.
I do live in the desert - 20 miles east of Barstow, CA - midway between the
15 and the 40 (speaking of that - Gene - where is Don these days?). My own
personal piece of dirt (5 acres of sand and scrub brush is less than a mile
up
the road - I can see it from here, where I am renting a 'mountain cabin in
the
desert') - but the plans I had for it (1987) were quashed when I had to
leave work and go on disability. My 'significant other' is 82 now,
and
I sent
him, back in '05, to care for his - now 106 - mother in the San Francisco
Bay
area. We see each other 2-3 times a year, if we're lucky.
I am closely following your progress because it is the 'new' people,
like
you, who - along with these very knowledgeable list denizens - who give hope
to
those of us who have resigned ourselves to living life from the sidelines.
I admire your spunk and your enthusiasm! Don't ever give up fighting the
good fight!
Sandy
Mid-Mojave
In a message dated 12/9/2008 8:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cayadopi AT yahoo.com writes:
Sandy, are you farming in desert conditions?
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From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
Subject: [Homestead] Anti-Doctor
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:34 AM
>I realize that I'm just being nosey and obnoxious at this point,
and
you
>can just tell me to f-off, but why do doctors and check-ups influence
your
>decisions? I'm anti-doctor, and believe that we each know our health
and
our
>bodies better than they do.
The list has been so bizzy, bizzy the last several days! As usual, I've
just
been hangin' back and absorbing 'stuff'...
But I can't let the 'anti-doctor' comment pass by. So glad to
meet
another!
I can't begin to recount how many times I've been prescribed
conflicting
medications...by the same physician - sitting right there in front of me,
consulting his dog-eared edition of the PDR...
Last time around, it took them four days - in a hospital bed - and 7
(seven!) drugs to finally figure out that my gall bladder and I need to
part
company.
Pleeze!
Two of those prescriptions, in conjunction, are 'known to cause early
onset
dementia'. Maybe I wrote this before? Sometimes memory does not serve
(the
result, no doubt, of listening to too many doctors) <g>
Sandy
Mid-Mojave
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Solid plastic would inhibit moisture movement. Those plastic food
boxes with lots of openings should work.
On Dec 9, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Leslie wrote:
> Is there any specific reason to not plastic?
>
> --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:
>
> From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Cool food storage
> To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 1:49 PM
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Leslie wrote:
>
>> Gene,
>>
>> For storing potatos / carrots in the soil, does the soil have to
>> remain above freezing?
>
> Yes. That's what the mulch does, keep the soil from freezing. When you
> want potatoes, you pull back mulch and lift the spuds. In good soil
> you can do this with no tool save your hands.
>
> An alternative way is to dig a hole and bury a small barrel or wood
> box (not plastic), fill with potatoes, top with lots of organic
> material: mulch, straw, grass and leaf collection from fall mowing. Do
> not clean the potatoes. Lift them, leave them on the ground until the
> clinging dirt and skins have dried a bit, then store. Handle as gently
> as possible to avoid bruising. Some people make layers of spuds and
> straw.
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