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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Another thing.  people seem to think they are so differnt when they actually 
are not.  And, even when they are, in some ways they can be each other's 
greatest allies and, sometimes even best firnds. 

 If there is a way to look it up on the internet, try to find a vidoe of the 
Dalai Lama accepting the  Medal of Freedom; I'm pretty sure that is the one I 
saw on c-Span.  he is speaking before some of the most imporant and powerful 
people on earth, he is already a winner of the Nobel prize for Peace (when it 
still had great meaning). 

 During the speech, he breaks down and begins to gently cry when talking 
about his friend -- Jesse Helms.  About when he had first arrived in this 
country and no one wanted to be his friend, except for Jesse Helms.  The 
fight for freedom can bring together people from very different life 
journies........

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--- On Sat, 12/6/08, bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Economy & family
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 9:02 AM
> Some of the excerpts I've pulled from your comments
> (below) , I have read similar from others on this list and
> on other lists (on other lists/forums, I only read, I
> don't comment).  You think that other people don't
> listen to you when they might be listening more than you are
> aware.  
> 
> I'll use James as an example.  He is assertive enough
> to chastise me if I am stepping on his toes. And, he is the
> best example of which I am aware of completely becoming
> independent of the system.
> 
> he has actually changed the wway I look at my interaction
> with society and how I might be able to change that
> interactivity.  There are very few people in my
> 'real' life that have had such an impact.  But,
> james probably thinks he has had no impact at all because I
> haven't moved quickly enough and I am , still, where I
> am.  But, he would be wrong. 
> 
> The fact is, I don't want a life 'just' like
> his, and , another fact is, for the first year or so, I
> didn't believe what he (or a lot of others on this list)
> said about their live was 'true".  I was new to the
> internet and had read how people made up stuff on the
> internet (in the MSM).  I really did not understand how
> people could still be so "connected" to the land
> and the natural order in modern society, and I did not
> understand how people , very smart well-educated people,
> could live on as little money as had been 'claimed'
> by people on this list.
> 
>   Until, recently, the 'security' of money was an
> 'ideal' that still seemed 'real to me.  I have ,
> in the past several years, started to understand very simple
> concepts which took a lot of reading, listening and
> 'education' to understand. 
> 
> Now, someone like james will probably say he doesn't
> care whether I listen or not.  You are the type to say that
> you do care.  But, I believe that neither of you, in either
> of your ways, would spend so much of your time explaining to
> the rest of us , a different way of looking at society, if
> there was not either some kind of 'teacher' within
> you or some kind of altruism in your nature.
> 
> never think that you are wasting your time spreading your
> version of the 'gospel' to strangers (or family). 
> One day, you will be in the ground and it won't matter
> who made fun  of you, but it might matter who listened to
> you ..............................bobford
> 
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> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 12/6/08, sjc <indexer AT fairpoint.net>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've been watching this whole thing unfold, Lisa,
> andseveral times been 
>  struck by the similarities to my situation.  I've
> always been the 'crazy' among my birth siblings, and
> they weren't sky about stating their opinions.  Rarely
> have they deemed it worthwhile tovisit me; the
> accommodations are lacking, services are lacking, they
> 
>   Always I have been the butt of  jokes, some of which
> would be actually cruel if I
> 
> 
> >
>   But this past fall I started getting more 
> interest......now I notice, no one's laughing anymore.
> I'm not waiting (or wanting) for them to say 'you
> may have had a point' but the 
> 
> > 
> > So, no matter how they blind themselves, whether
> through ignorance or 
> > deliberate refusal to look at facts they find
> unacceptable,it's really 
> > a hard fall for folks like that.
> > 
> 
> > Boggles the brain how perfectly intelligent people (at
> least one is a 
> > lot smarter than I, speaks/translates/interrogates in
> 11 languages plus 
> > many dialects in some of those!) can walk around with
> closed eyes is 
> > beyond the ken of this old slow woman with her goats. 
> > 
> >, 
> 
> 
>       
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